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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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Question 351M or 400?

I just bought a 2wd 79 3/4 ton Supercab. When I bought it the guy wasn't sure, but he thought it was a 351. I looked to find it as an S-code 400. The motor has tons of power and looks to have been rebuilt not too long ago. All the stickers are gone from the valve covers and the radiator support looks to have been cut out wider on one side, so now I'm a little curious. Is there an easy way to tell the difference by just looking at the motor? I did notice that the oil dipstick on my 78 400 is on the drivers side and this one is on the front off to the pass side a little like my 77 351M. Does that mean anything?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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The two engines are identical on the exterior.

You have to measure the stroke or ID the crankshaft

Also, FTE has a 335 engine series forum for these type topics
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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So you're saying the different location of the dipstick has nothing to do with it and this could still be the correct 400? I'm not qestioning your knowlege by any means. I just got confused when I noticed it, and not that it makes a huge difference to me which one it is, it's just nice to know. I don't plan to tear it apart just to find out, because like I said, the thing looks pretty fresh and clean and has no problem rolling smoke off the tires.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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i have been told there is a "m" stamped at the front of the block on 400's
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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i have been told there is a "m" stamped at the front of the block on 400's
That would not be correct. The motors were a 351M and 400. They did not use the M on a 400 motor so I see no reason why the block would be stamped with an M.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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You could check the vin, but that only tells you what the truck came with originally, it could have been swapped with just about anything by now. The only way to tell for sure is to check the crank. i think on the first counterweight a 400 will have something like 5M on it.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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yes there are M's on the block in the casting number they are 5M, 5MA, 5MAB, 5MABC. these are 400 casting numbers . You can look at this at www.tmeyerinc.com on the home page .
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Those are the casting numbers. It does signify that it is an M block for figuring out if it is a 351M or a 400.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Where on meyers site ?



IMO,Those are FOUNDRY cast numbers.

Not engine ID casting numbers
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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Where on meyers site ?



IMO,Those are FOUNDRY cast numbers for date...for what is a considered the M block

The 351M/400 both share the M block

Not engine ID casting numbers
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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right on the home page in blue it's half way down in the center in states" vissually identify ford parts" wrote in blue
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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sorry thats the crank read wrong on the web site just browsed through and saw that
 
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