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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Ok, I've got to ask about this- Why is everyone under the impression that extended periods of idling aren't "bad" for diesels? Is it just because semi's do it all the time?
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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A long time ago it was necessary to idle diesels for extended periods of time because it was difficult to start them up, or they needed a long time to warm up. Today, that is no longer the case, but those old habits and "recommendations" still stick around. The same goes for many other myths that just won't die. One that I still hear all the time is that your seals will leak if you switch your oil to synthetic.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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My daughter works as a service writer for the local ford dealer. In the winter, they do ALOT of turbo cleaning because peolpe idle too much.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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The same goes for many other myths that just won't die.
Don't forget the myth that diesels are slowing moving vehicles. That's another myth that I enjoy busting on a daily basis.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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Ive always heard that it was bad to let a diesel idle? Is that true?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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YES, Its terrible to idle a diesel for long periods of time. Carbon buildup in the turbo and on the valve train can be severe. This causes performance and MPG problems. if you idle up to 1200 RPMs this will help lessen the amount of "load-up" but it doesn't elliminate the problem. The key is to not idle, or idle as little as possible. Another key is to work a diesel, that is what they are built to do. Get the EGTs up enough to burn off the build up.
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Ive always heard that it was bad to let a diesel idle? Is that true?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:14 AM
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What is a long time? I start mine remotely and let run about 10 minutes every cold morning. I have the 08 6.4PSD. Seems the rpm will go to about 1100 after a minute or two. What is your opinion of this habit?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:31 AM
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The 1100 rpm idle stays at 1100 until I step on the brake or shift into gear. I am pretty sure it is not regen as it happens every morning. Is this an engine controlled fast idle for warm up? In gas engines this was called auto choke. How about diesels?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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Ford Powerstrokes (7.3L, 6.0L, 6.4L) idle up in cold weather. Perfectly normal, and it's to help reduce problems associated with extended idling.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mnmwhit
YES, Its terrible to idle a diesel for long periods of time. Carbon buildup in the turbo and on the valve train can be severe. This causes performance and MPG problems. if you idle up to 1200 RPMs this will help lessen the amount of "load-up" but it doesn't elliminate the problem. The key is to not idle, or idle as little as possible. Another key is to work a diesel, that is what they are built to do. Get the EGTs up enough to burn off the build up.
Here is the problem though, if you have short distances to go and it is cold outside you have to let it idle to extent in order to bring it up to operating temperature in order to give it a work out. If you start working it before it's up to operating temp. and you have a short drive, you run the risk of head bolt problems that way(if you have the stock head bolts). Oh by the way, after you see the factory water temp gauge get to operating temp, it actually takes another 5-10 min for it really to get up to temp based on my aftermarket gauge(depending on tune, depends on avg. running temp(for instaces the race tune might be at 200 while the econo tune might be at 190)).
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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is 2k considered working it? I I try to drive between 1500 and 1800 until it warms up but I am not accelerating too fast, it seems like I am crawling.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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I would actually considering working it to every once and awhile get to 3k and a little over, don't stay there all day mind you, but get there every once and a while.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mnmwhit
YES, Its terrible to idle a diesel for long periods of time. Carbon buildup in the turbo and on the valve train can be severe. This causes performance and MPG problems. if you idle up to 1200 RPMs this will help lessen the amount of "load-up" but it doesn't elliminate the problem. The key is to not idle, or idle as little as possible. Another key is to work a diesel, that is what they are built to do. Get the EGTs up enough to burn off the build up.
Thanks for the info
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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need to put it under a load, high boost, higher EGTs
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is 2k considered working it? I I try to drive between 1500 and 1800 until it warms up but I am not accelerating too fast, it seems like I am crawling.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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and ive been hitting my break every morning to lower the idle....I guess I should let it idle high while warming up?
 
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