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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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Body lift

I've seen some talk around here about body lifts.

I've looked around for a PA 2 inch, but they always specifiy everything but the diesel trucks. Why Im not sure, the rad relocating?

Any of you that have been doing BL's on these trucks want to chime in?

I would love to get the clearence around my dp and turbo.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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If it were my truck, i wouldn't waste my money on a body lift, but that's me.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by superduty4x4
If it were my truck, i wouldn't waste my money on a body lift, but that's me.
So you have a 4" dp and have done a lot of work on your turbo?

You wouldnt like the room?

Regardless, I would like the room.

Im not supersticous about body lifts, and have done 1 or 2. Just not on a ford superduty.

Technically speaking, on a 1 ton truck if you are looking for some room, a BL is a good answer that doesnt leave you axle wrapping your drivetrain into peices, or softening your ride till you cant haul.

Off topic anyways.

Who's done it, what did you run into that you had to do different from a typical BL.

Thank you
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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i made my body lift.,.. out of steel cold roll with a hole down the middle... (my family owns a steel mill) so i got it done for free...
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bnine
So you have a 4" dp and have done a lot of work on your turbo?
Nope, never said I did either. I'm just not a fan of body lifts and wouldn't waste my time putting one on my truck for any reason, but that's me. Seems to me there are a lot of guys on here that have done down pipe and turbo work without the body lift.
Don't get too mad at me, I'm just a gasser owner who hopes to have a stroker one day, so maybe then I'll sympathize with you
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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The nerve of you superduty,LOL.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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my old 97 had a 3 inch body lift on it, i was pleased with it. i had to make brackets for the rear bumper. that turned out great, looked stock. the front wasnt as easy. i notched the rolled portion of the bumper to clear the frame rails and it still didnt raise even as it used to but was darn close. all in all i was very pleased with my install and the truck rode great. it was a std cab long bed 460 truck. oh, i also had to drop the radiator down, and heat the 4x4 handle and bend it to fit properly. all in all it was 1 saturdays work from start to finish. i will try to load some pics but for now go to my webshots in the 97 f-250 folder, it is the grey truck not the green one
 
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by superduty4x4
Nope, never said I did either. I'm just not a fan of body lifts and wouldn't waste my time putting one on my truck for any reason, but that's me. Seems to me there are a lot of guys on here that have done down pipe and turbo work without the body lift.
Don't get too mad at me, I'm just a gasser owner who hopes to have a stroker one day, so maybe then I'll sympathize with you
No worries superduty.

Not mad at you. I do custom suspensions, body lifts, drivetrains, and fabrication as part of my living.

I know that most people that dismiss body lifts, are those that dont understand them, and the benefits involved with using one, or that they are virtually invisible to most onlookers when they are done right.

btw, read some downpipe threads. Most experts here will recommend against the 4" DP because of clearence issues. Mine clears, but contacts the fire wall when I turn left. My firewall is already cut and clearence as much as it will go without putting holes in it.
 

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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I've read a few of the downpipe threads, but having never actually looked closely under the hood of one of these rigs I can't feel your pain. If I can get someone to buy my gasser I will though
 
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Old May 5, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Everywhere I read, the body lifts claim they cant go in the psd trucks.

Anyone know what needs to be addressed in order to make it work?

Thanks
 
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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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I know that most people that dismiss body lifts, are those that dont understand them, and the benefits involved with using one, or that they are virtually invisible to most onlookers when they are done right.
OR it could be the fact that they are potentially unsafe. 99% of the time people just use longer bolts without increasing their size and/or grade. adn not only that but you are raising your center of gravity. I've installed or helped install more body lifts (not on my own trucks) than i can count, i do understand them and i hate them even more now than i did before!

body lifts (unless absolutely needed) should be a last resort. i have done plenty of turbo work, up-pipe work, tranny work, etc to my truck and i know its tight and can be a pain to work on... you still couldnt pay me to put one of those one. i have an offroad truck (built by your truely), i have a pavement pounder, and I have a POS DD and I would not put a BL on any of them. no matter how you do it body lifts look terrible. find me a picture that shows me otherwise, until then i will leave the BL's to the Z71 and 33" tire guys.

BTW to answer your question, the only thing you will need to worry about is your intercooler piping. other than that, if you dont have an IC you are golden. you will need to trim the core support to drop the rad and fan shroud enough.

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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bnine
I know that most people that dismiss body lifts, are those that dont understand them, and the benefits involved with using one, or that they are virtually invisible to most onlookers when they are done right.
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what a load of crap!

Body lifts are unsafe PERIOD!!!!!, they are a chitty way to get a better stance/clearance for parts on your truck......i understand the few "advantages"....yes some of them are reasonable, but the disadvantages certainly out weigh them in almost every case.....
 
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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Cutts is right. Check this thread, started by one of the Mods explaing in detail the woes and the right way to do a BL:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...he-how-to.html


Besides, why would you waste the heavy carrying capacity of a diesel SD and put a BL on it? You will never be able to carry the full weight capacity of the truck with the poly blocks that come in the kits as they will crack and split under the added pressure. I guess I'm just different in the fact that I use my heavy truck as a work horse and not just some styling toy to cruise the local shopping malls trying to look cool. This is my opinion, jsut as others have their own, so take it as that. I just never understand why people sacrafice the usefulness of a truck to try to be cool.
 
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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Phew. Lot of half truths on here.

Kjett,

My truck is a tow rig. 90% of the load is on my gooseneck hitch that pulls a 26" gooseneck with 2 jeeps on it. Aside from the poly wont colapse anyways, the purpose of it for me is clearence, and the ability to avoid suspension lifting.

Suspension lifting on these trucks is as much, if not more compromise then a small body lift. You either use rear blocks that will severly increase axle wrap under load, or soft lift springs that compromise your load capacity. Not something Im after.


Fishman

COG - Less then 1/3rd of a trucks weight is raised with a body lift. Compared to the 3/4's when suspension lifts are used, its not even worth mentioning.

Body mounts use grade 5 hardware because the sheer strngth of those grade 5's are even over kill.

I wont replace the hardware, but as my truck is a crewcab, I will fabricate a center bushing mount tied to the frame to add support.

Like so



The additional strength to keep my truck from jumping off its frame will just be a bonus....lol

Eventually I want to go all 4" exhaust on my rig. As it is right now I need to wrap it because at 1/4" from the trans, its pumping heat into my tranny and causing me to run hot. A small BL will help with that significantly.

This rig is also my holiday hauler since 4 wheeling is our recreation. Some clearence will also give me some room to further insulate the firewall and quiet things down in the cab a bit.

As for a body lift that doesnt look hideous...........

2.5" under the tub, backhalfed frame 1" BL at the back, 1.25" under the grill.

All of which affords a flat tucked nv4500, klune, atlas combo, 6 inches of up travel, a frame height of 21", and the highest point of the jeep at 75.5". All on 38" rubber.





Also built by yours truly as well as 15 plus other very similar rigs over the last 5 years.


This is not my first time in the playground, just first time in a different sandbox. Trying to intimidate me by hollering half truths and opinions as gospal is not change my mind or opinion.

I didnt ask for all the preaching, I just wanted to know what the issue was.

Thank you all for the intercooler tips.

Thanks for the chuckles as well...........lol
 
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Old May 6, 2008 | 05:50 AM
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You either use rear blocks that will severly increase axle wrap under load, or soft lift springs that compromise your load capacity. Not something Im after. I have dropped spring mounts on several trucks with great success, this does not change the spring to softer ones nor do you get any more axle wrap.

COG - Less then 1/3rd of a trucks weight is raised with a body lift. Compared to the 3/4's when suspension lifts are used, its not even worth mentioning. purely out of curiosity, where did you come up with these numbers?

As for a body lift that doesnt look hideous........... i dunno man, it IS a heep... sorry jeep

Also built by yours truly as well as 15 plus other very similar rigs over the last 5 years. WOW, apparently i need to get in your line of work... 15 plus rigs over just 5 years? hell i have 5 years in just one rig and still cant get it right!


This is not my first time in the playground, just first time in a different sandbox. Trying to intimidate me by hollering half truths and opinions as gospal is not change my mind or opinion. no one is trying to, i just cant stand it when people feel body lifts are the way to go and that they are sooo easy. the cheaper the kit the harder the install. in some instances (like clearing turbos and superchargers) body lifts can be done but they need to be kept modest and well thought out.
so YEA! i still would never install a body lift on anythign of mine! i have torches, BFH, sawzall, and plasma that i can make work for me!

EDIT... is that a hi-9 in the rear? or a dynatrac 9?


0" of body lift, still fairly capable!



-cutts-
 
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