Notices
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Bumpsides Ford Truck

Royal purple in diff a good idea?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:12 PM
  #1  
azfordf100man's Avatar
azfordf100man
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 503
Likes: 0
From: arizona
Royal purple in diff a good idea?

I know royal purple makes good stuff, but is it good for our 9" rear ends?

Also, is it easy to do the job, haven't looked much but didn't see a drain plug when I just glanced at it and what weight 75/90?

Thanks,
Mike
 

Last edited by azfordf100man; Dec 3, 2007 at 09:14 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:40 PM
  #2  
Dave Severson's Avatar
Dave Severson
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,302
Likes: 0
From: Madison, SD
a 9" doesn't have a drain plug in stock configuration. Never have run Royal Purple, I use Mobil 1 Synthetic in everything, engine, trans, and rear end. No complaints. I use the lighter weight synthetic in the rear end on the drag car, but the heavier weight synthetic in the rear end on street stuff and trucks....

When you switch yours over to synthetic, it's best to remove the center section and scrub it and the housing out with stanasol and wipe/blow it all dry, then reassemble with a new gasket and install the synthetic lube. This will keep you from contaminating your new synthetic lube with gunky old dinosaur oil......
 

Last edited by Dave Severson; Dec 3, 2007 at 10:42 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 04:49 AM
  #3  
jowilker's Avatar
jowilker
Fleet Owner
25 Year Member
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 24,552
Likes: 74
From: Creedmoor, North Carolina
Club FTE Silver Member

Mike, If you are racing like Dave, you want every advantage that you can get.

You truck has spent it's first and best 40 years on regular ol Dino gear oil. Spend your money any way that you like, but the truck will do just fine on the old stuff. IMHO


John
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:42 AM
  #4  
Dave Severson's Avatar
Dave Severson
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,302
Likes: 0
From: Madison, SD
Originally Posted by jowilker
Mike, If you are racing like Dave, you want every advantage that you can get.
John
Very true John....It also makes a huge difference in the price that one of my sponsors is a Mobil distributor!!!! Can't say that I've seen a lot of 9" rears with failure attributed to conventional gear lube..... But like you said, an advantage is an advantage, even if you can't measure it on anything less then a chassis dyno. By running synthetic in the engine, transmission, and differential there is a reduction in friction and an increase in horsepower applied to the ground, but certainly nothing you could feel in the seat of your pants in a street car or truck.....
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:53 AM
  #5  
fitzwell's Avatar
fitzwell
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
From: texas,earth
Originally Posted by jowilker
Mike, If you are racing like Dave, you want every advantage that you can get.

You truck has spent it's first and best 40 years on regular ol Dino gear oil. Spend your money any way that you like, but the truck will do just fine on the old stuff. IMHO


John
Yep....and you can eat 99 cent cheeseburgers if you want.

Royal purple in the driveline in both the 46 and the 69. Nice thing is the RP has a better "cling" factor if the vehicle sits for long periods of time, so as to avoid a total dry start. Besides, with the synthetic, you improve lubrication & can pick up slight fuel economy #'s


just my .02
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:54 AM
  #6  
azfordf100man's Avatar
azfordf100man
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 503
Likes: 0
From: arizona
I don't hot rod the truck around or anything, I just want to give the truck good quality fluids. Sometimes I drive the truck a long distance and I figured the rp could help control heat, and I'm not sure if the diff is original or not? I also want to use the max atf but not yet as I just had the tranny rebuilt, so I'll use the fluid that's in it now and switch to rp when it's time to change.

So basically, rp is a good thing right?

Mike
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:14 AM
  #7  
jowilker's Avatar
jowilker
Fleet Owner
25 Year Member
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 24,552
Likes: 74
From: Creedmoor, North Carolina
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by fitzwell
Yep....and you can eat 99 cent cheeseburgers if you want.
You got something against $.99 cheeseburgers?

Some would argue about the virtues of any product like RP.

To respond further to Dave's comment, I don't believe there has ever been a failure of a rear that was properly lubricated with the Dino gear oil that was attributed to the use of Dino oil. Maybe the lack of, or contaminated with.....

It is reported that synthetic oils can reduce friction in moving parts allowing a possible advantage over another that may not be using them. Should a guy with non-synthetic fluids keep finishing ahead of you, one might conclude he has a better built car or is a better driver.


John
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:27 AM
  #8  
fitzwell's Avatar
fitzwell
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
From: texas,earth
Originally Posted by azfordf100man
I don't hot rod the truck around or anything, I just want to give the truck good quality fluids. Sometimes I drive the truck a long distance and I figured the rp could help control heat, and I'm not sure if the diff is original or not? I also want to use the max atf but not yet as I just had the tranny rebuilt, so I'll use the fluid that's in it now and switch to rp when it's time to change.

So basically, rp is a good thing right?

Mike
Yep. good stuff. Not cheap, but worth it. RP in the driveline on my 69 & it sits....a lot. Got in last year,after about a two month nap, drove over 500 miles, loaded about 900 lbs in the rear & drove back.....at 15+ mpg. Yeah, the RP is good stuff. As stated, when you change it out, drop the chunk, pull the axles& clean the housing as best you can. new gaskets & seals....good for at least another 100k
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:37 AM
  #9  
azfordf100man's Avatar
azfordf100man
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 503
Likes: 0
From: arizona
so which weight do You think?

Mike
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:07 AM
  #10  
fitzwell's Avatar
fitzwell
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
From: texas,earth
Originally Posted by azfordf100man
so which weight do You think?

Mike
MaxGear 75w90

First time the 46 went to Hammond ( about 540 miles) it had a 3.73 gear, 26" tall tires & a c-4. Never had a problem, and that was with 75w90 in August heat


And John, not that i don't like 99 cent burgers, i just like the 4.50 burgers from Hoffbrau better

Bottom line...they all make a turd in the end
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 12:17 PM
  #11  
67Pustomp's Avatar
67Pustomp
Junior User
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
speaking of "seat of the pants"..an old estimation was that you need a diiference of at least 20 horsepower to feel a improvement in acceleration from what you had before..does anyone want to make a guess as to how many "hamburgers" that is?
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 01:22 PM
  #12  
azfordf100man's Avatar
azfordf100man
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 503
Likes: 0
From: arizona
So what do I need to do to get the cover off, etc?

Mike
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:31 PM
  #13  
Dave Severson's Avatar
Dave Severson
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,302
Likes: 0
From: Madison, SD
Originally Posted by azfordf100man
So what do I need to do to get the cover off, etc?

Mike
The cover does not come off of a 9" rear end, the center section, complete with gears, carrier, and all removes from the front. The first thing you have to do is remove the wheels and brake drums, then remove the four nuts holding the axle retaining plate in, and slide the axles out about 6" or so. Then get underneath and remove the nuts holding the center section to the differential housing and remove the center section..... NOTE--- be careful!!!! The center section is quite heavy and will ruin your entire day if it falls on your hand!!!!! Sometimes takes some LIGHT tapping and prying to get the center section to come loose. Once you get it to pop loose, remove the copper washers from each of the studs, too!!! Get a new gasket to reinstall the center section. While it's out, clean the center section and the axle housing THOROUGHLY with Stanasol or other type parts cleaner and dry it out with rags and an air hose. If you don't clean all the old grease and gunk out, you're just wasting your time putting in synthetic fluid, doesn't take much of the old junk to contaminate it.......
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:02 AM
  #14  
"Beemer Nut"'s Avatar
"Beemer Nut"
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,658
Likes: 4
From: "Islander"
I rebuilt a BMW LSD then my friend used RP oil in it, the clutch plates moaned for over a month until the fluid was drained and Red Line 75/90 All Synthetic
gear oil added. $8.99 a qt. Within three days driving the moan was gone and it still has the 40% LS as built. Two long black rubber marks straight line, full power drifting turns. Plan "B" a special oil at $100 a gallon, ouch!
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 10:23 AM
  #15  
fitzwell's Avatar
fitzwell
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
From: texas,earth
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
The cover does not come off of a 9" rear end, the center section, complete with gears, carrier, and all removes from the front. The first thing you have to do is remove the wheels and brake drums, then remove the four nuts holding the axle retaining plate in, and slide the axles out about 6" or so. Then get underneath and remove the nuts holding the center section to the differential housing and remove the center section..... NOTE--- be careful!!!! The center section is quite heavy and will ruin your entire day if it falls on your hand!!!!! Sometimes takes some LIGHT tapping and prying to get the center section to come loose. Once you get it to pop loose, remove the copper washers from each of the studs, too!!! Get a new gasket to reinstall the center section. While it's out, clean the center section and the axle housing THOROUGHLY with Stanasol or other type parts cleaner and dry it out with rags and an air hose. If you don't clean all the old grease and gunk out, you're just wasting your time putting in synthetic fluid, doesn't take much of the old junk to contaminate it.......
Don't forget to get some new copper washers for the studs when you re-install the chunk. You can get 'em at Ford if you wish, or hit the plumbing aisle at the local hardware store. A THIN coating of silicone on both sides of the gasket helps as well.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:35 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE