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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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speedo cable question

hey numberdummy or someone, i was wondering what the part number is for a new speedometer cable. Also i was wondering if the years mattered for the cable or just any one from 50-70 would work.

Also my speedometer is about 10 miles off once i get to a certain speed, figuring im needing a new gear, can someone tell me how many teeth the gear i need has? stock 292, stock 3spd manual tranny, all stock...

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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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10 up or down? Ypu need to pull the end out of the transmission and count the teeth.

Typically one up is good for five slower and one down is good for five faster.

These gears are avalible at your ford dealer or through various vendors.

A part number will do you jack unless you want NOS ford. Stroll to NAPA AutoZone or Checkers and get one. Just discern if your truck is a standard or auto or four wheel drive and the year, it is a common cable.

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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 06:05 AM
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1963/64 F100/250 2WD Speedo Cables

Originally Posted by tx64f100tx
hey numberdummy or someone, i was wondering what the part number is for a new speedometer cable. Also i was wondering if the years mattered for the cable or just any one from 50-70 would work.

Also my speedometer is about 10 miles off once i get to a certain speed, figuring im needing a new gear, can someone tell me how many teeth the gear i need has? stock 292, stock 3spd manual tranny, all stock...
thanks guys
Any autoparts store sells a replacement speedometer cable inner core. Just cut to fit.

Make sure to lightly grease the new core (white lithium grease) when installing it in the housing.

Dry cores are the MAJOR reason why they snap.

1961/64 F100/250 2WD Speedo Cable & Housing (all are obsolete)

C3TZ-17260-BY = 60.00" -long = Ford 3 Speed all Syncro Transmission

C3TZ-17260-Y = 77.00" -long = Warner T89C 3 Speed; Warner T98A 4 Speed

C3TZ-17260-AA = 63.00" -long = Warner 3 speed O/D; FOM or COM A/T.

In order to determine what the driven speedo gear (end of cable) the truck has, count the number of teeth. Otherwise, the tire size, rear axle ratio and the type of engine/transmission must be known to figure out what teeth the gear is supposed to be.

NOTE: Both fiber & plastic driven gears were used, it depends on the application.

Most of the plastic gears are still available from Ford. There are two types. Some go this a way: / Some go that a way: \. The fiber gears are obsolete.
 

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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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I still love the fact that my original 3-speed manual speedometer cable, gear, and retainer was a direct bolt-up to the '93 AOD and the speedo is within 1mph accurate. Gotta love these Fords.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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ok. i was just reading through this post and I have a question. I've pulled my speedo cable gear (the one thats removable)out of the trans and mine seems to be metal. no plastic or fiber. havent actually tested it to see if it is metal or not. did they ever use metal gears???????? was this somthing special.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 64fordf100292
ok. i was just reading through this post and I have a question. I've pulled my speedo cable gear (the one thats removable)out of the trans and mine seems to be metal. no plastic or fiber. havent actually tested it to see if it is metal or not. did they ever use metal gears???????? was this somthing special.
What you have is the remains of a fiber gear & shaft. The fiber has distingrated.

I need the gear ratio, tire size, engine size and tire size to figure out what driven gear you need.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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LOL, so If I'm running a 500 CI motor

[QUOTE=I need the gear ratio, tire size, engine size and tire size to figure out what driven gear you need.[/QUOTE]

It somehow affects the gear ratio / tire diameter and makes the speedometer read off
 
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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will that make my speedo needle bounce?????
 
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 64fordf100292
will that make my speedo needle bounce?????
Only if the gear is stripped. The usual cause of speedo bounce is a bad speedometer head.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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LOL...if I'm running a 500ci motor..

Originally Posted by jyro
It somehow affects the gear ratio / tire diameter and makes the speedometer read off
Everything must match the original configuration. So the Cattle-Hack engine makes no difference.

The rear axle ratio (there are at least 8 possibles), type of transmission (there are 5 possibles), tire size (sizes: 6.70-15, 7.10-15, 7.60-15, 8.00-15 & 8.15-15 were available) and the cid of the engine must be known to get the right gear.

The are 15 possible speedometer driven gears and 8 output shaft drive gears.

You want your speedo to read correctly, you need the info above..otherwise you're SOL.
 

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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so you're using engine size to determine what the tranny mainshaft tooth count maybe?

I can't see the engine size affecting anything on the speedometer calibration.
My combo is a 1966 f-100 351w 3.73 gears 255x70x15 c-6 with a 23 tooth gear, it reads about 10 mph low at 65, go with a 21?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jyro
I can't see the engine size affecting anything on the speedometer calibration. if Ford didn't ask about engines sizes inre to speedo gears, I wouldn't need to ask either.
My combo is a 1966 f-100 351w 3.73 gears 255x70x15 c-6 with a 23 tooth gear, it reads about 10 mph low at 65, go with a 21?
Ford never offered a 23 tooth plastic or fiber speedometer driven gear. You need to drop one tooth size to correct your speedo, but Ford didn't offer a 22 tooth gear, either. Only 15 thru 21 tooth gears were offered (thru 1997, after that date, I dunno). Your speedo will read too high with a 21 tooth gear. If you can find a 22 tooth driven gear (available aftermarket), you're all set.
 

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Thanks

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
the Cattle-Hack engine makes no difference.
now, what's a "cattle hack engine"?
 
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i was wondering that myself.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jyro
now, what's a "cattle hack engine"?
1971 Cadillac El Dorado 500 cid V8 engine.

You made a ref to a 500 cid engine, this is the only one I could think of.

Slang: Cadillac = Cattle-Hack
 
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