horsepower question
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The 6 is a good towing motor (more so than the 5.0) and the lower end torque would probably be nice for off-road use.
It might also get an extra mpg versus the 5 liter and 2 or 3 over the 351...but if you're looking for an engine to wind out all the way, the big 6 isn't the one.
Towing/rock crawling or something - 6 is the way to go.
It might also get an extra mpg versus the 5 liter and 2 or 3 over the 351...but if you're looking for an engine to wind out all the way, the big 6 isn't the one.
Towing/rock crawling or something - 6 is the way to go.
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yea im not looking for a record in the 1/4 mile with the truck just somthing to tow a boat everynow and then and a little off roading cause i cant get enough of it and the gas mileage is another thing so i think im better off with the staight 6 then the 351.
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The straight six IMO doesn't have the horsepower for many off road conditions. The 351 is the better engine as it has the low end torque of the straight six and the horsepower to boot (210hp/310tq). But the straight six is a great/durable motor, everyone will tell ya that.
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Yea you cant kill a 300. It has plenty of power for what your wanting to do. It will pull a good size boat, they do great offroading (from all my experiences with mine offroading) ect... The parts to fix them are also pretty cheap, so if you break it, you can afford to fix it. Just keep oil in it, and change it, and itll last for you...
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Originally Posted by 88FordF-150
Yea you cant kill a 300. It has plenty of power for what your wanting to do. It will pull a good size boat, they do great offroading (from all my experiences with mine offroading) ect... The parts to fix them are also pretty cheap, so if you break it, you can afford to fix it. Just keep oil in it, and change it, and itll last for you...
When your in a situation where you've got a lot of load/resistance in the tires (sticky mud, deep snow, etc) and the engine loads up, sometimes you need that extra bit of horsepower to get momentum and movement. The 300 just doesn't have good enough power to get the wheels goin' in certain situations. The 351 has 60 horsepower and 50 ft-lbs of torque on it...theres a big difference hidden there.
On the other hand, the 300 has enough power to muscle its way through most common situations.
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Originally Posted by MustangGT221
I've wheel'd with all three and IMO the 351 is the best, the 300 is a great second, and the 302 can take a hike...great engine just not in a truck.
When your in a situation where you've got a lot of load/resistance in the tires (sticky mud, deep snow, etc) and the engine loads up, sometimes you need that extra bit of horsepower to get momentum and movement. The 300 just doesn't have good enough power to get the wheels goin' in certain situations. The 351 has 60 horsepower and 50 ft-lbs of torque on it...theres a big difference hidden there.
On the other hand, the 300 has enough power to muscle its way through most common situations.
When your in a situation where you've got a lot of load/resistance in the tires (sticky mud, deep snow, etc) and the engine loads up, sometimes you need that extra bit of horsepower to get momentum and movement. The 300 just doesn't have good enough power to get the wheels goin' in certain situations. The 351 has 60 horsepower and 50 ft-lbs of torque on it...theres a big difference hidden there.
On the other hand, the 300 has enough power to muscle its way through most common situations.
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Well eco, the 460 has decent power and the pre powerstrokes were ok also, but there was also a concern for gas mileage. Myself i dont care for the 460, its HEAVY and stock there not that impressive on the numbers (HP and TRQ), and same goes for the IDI 7.3's and the 6.9's IMO..
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Originally Posted by 88FordF-150
Well eco, the 460 has decent power and the pre powerstrokes were ok also, but there was also a concern for gas mileage. Myself i dont care for the 460, its HEAVY and stock there not that impressive on the numbers (HP and TRQ), and same goes for the IDI 7.3's and the 6.9's IMO..
Granted, I like the 460 but it's not very powerful in stock trim, it gets horrible gas mileage, it's heavy, and you can't easily modify it to make more power.
It's actually cheaper/easier for me to stroke my 351 to 393 or even 427 and blow the doors off a 460 than it is to swap one in and try to make power out of it.
The 460 has it's place and its a great motor but it won't be under my truck's hood.
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I pull a hallmark tool trailer and a 30' travel trailer with my 460, does a great job of it. Gets as good and better gas mileage as my 351 gets.
I get about 13 with the 351 and about 14 with the 460, empty or loaded.
The 351 pulls the trailers well to but it is so much easier for the 460 to do it. Can feel the load on the 351 pulling the hallmark, weighs about 3000lbs. With the 460 can't tell its there.
The camper is near 7000lbs, sure I'd pull it with the 351 if I didn't have the 460 but I'm sure glad I don't have to.
I get about 13 with the 351 and about 14 with the 460, empty or loaded.
The 351 pulls the trailers well to but it is so much easier for the 460 to do it. Can feel the load on the 351 pulling the hallmark, weighs about 3000lbs. With the 460 can't tell its there.
The camper is near 7000lbs, sure I'd pull it with the 351 if I didn't have the 460 but I'm sure glad I don't have to.
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Well, under towing conditions the 460 may have the edge in mileage than the 351 as it has to work harder.
There are exceptions here...but 95% of the people I've talked to can't get over 10mpg with a 460.
I've hit as high as 16 hwy with my 351 and I get about 13-14 hauling a 3000lb load.
There are exceptions here...but 95% of the people I've talked to can't get over 10mpg with a 460.
I've hit as high as 16 hwy with my 351 and I get about 13-14 hauling a 3000lb load.
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Having had several of each (18 in all ) go for the 300. I run 302s . I like the 4 MPG more I get than any 351 I owned and it pulls my car trailer. But the 300 is a low end lover would be good for what you want.Plus MPG
I go out west every year al351's never saw above 13 MPG with 235' and 3:55 rears .And its flat out there. But if you have trailer with some weight to it hooked weekly get a 351.
I go out west every year al351's never saw above 13 MPG with 235' and 3:55 rears .And its flat out there. But if you have trailer with some weight to it hooked weekly get a 351.
