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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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CEL question

I've been driving my plow truck some and doing some work on it getting it ready for snow.

Truck is a 1994 F-250 5.8L auto trans with OD, 8600gvwr part time 4W drive.

The CEL came on so I used a jumper (yea I need a reader for it) to have it flash the light at me and I get

KOEO, 6 2 6 6 2 6= I'm thinking that would be 626 then 626 repeat?

Not showing anything in my haynes for 62 / 66 / 26.

KOEO, (continuos memory) 1 7 2 1 7 2= again a 172 then a 172 repeat?

Its not showing anything in my haynes for 172 or 17 / 21 / 72, shows 72 in the book but thats under KOER test results that I get no codes.

KOER, no code given.

Are those valid codes? The Haynes manual doesn't give anything for those codes. Does anyone have a better book that can tell me what they are for or know of a site that gives all the codes so I can look it up myself?

Truck gets close to 13mpg and seams to run just fine, not effected by whatever is triggering the CEL. I would still like to correct the problem.

Thanks, Dan
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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yup they're repeats

626: coas clutch solenoid circuit failiure (E4OD)

172: HEGO shows system lean (I had to replace O2 sensor on mine to solve this code) You might want to test your O2 sensor



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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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There's no proper way to test an o2 sensor. You'll just need to replace it and hope it works. I had the same code and new o2 sensors fixed mine.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Skandocious
There's no proper way to test an o2 sensor. You'll just need to replace it and hope it works. I had the same code and new o2 sensors fixed mine.
I think you can check it by back-probing the wires and checking voltage Chris, but I did like you did, took a shot and it worked

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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Ok great thanks,

I know the 02 sensor is pretty old so I'll check it out, probably just needs a new one.

Now for the trans code, now that I think of it it's a reman "jasper" with probably somewhere around 10-15k on it, any idea what that problem is?

I just did a fluid/filter change on it, could that have something to do with it throwing a code? Worked alright but didn't jump into gear fast enough when going from park to drive, changing the filter/fluid fixed that and now it "jumps" like it should right when the lever hits drive.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by danr1
Ok great thanks,

I know the 02 sensor is pretty old so I'll check it out, probably just needs a new one.

Now for the trans code, now that I think of it it's a reman "jasper" with probably somewhere around 10-15k on it, any idea what that problem is?

I just did a fluid/filter change on it, could that have something to do with it throwing a code? Worked alright but didn't jump into gear fast enough when going from park to drive, changing the filter/fluid fixed that and now it "jumps" like it should right when the lever hits drive.
Did you have the code before the transmission work? If so reset codes and see if CEL stays off
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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Whoops I was looking at the wrong section... Strange, this is what my repair manual says under Oxygen Sensor Testing:
http://arrc.epnet.com/autoapp/8828/8828R04_TESTIN1.htm

Then it says this under HEATED Oxygen Sensor Testing:
http://arrc.epnet.com/autoapp/8828/8828R04_TESTIN2.htm

Wierd... I was under the impression that we only had 1 type of o2 sensor in these trucks, a HEGO sensor.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Yea I think I read in the book a way to test the sensor but like you I'll just buy it a new one. Never replaced it on that truck as long as I've owned it.
I don't replace them every 30k or whatever, I replace them when the computer says it's not working! lol
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Ahh wait, don't the newer trucks have HEGO's and the old ones have reg o2 sensors? I'm pretty sure Dan's got HEGOs so he should be safe to test them according the above procedure.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Itch71
Did you have the code before the transmission work? If so reset codes and see if CEL stays off
Yea it had the CEL before it, It sat most the summer and when I started driving it the light came on. I cleared the codes and drove it to see if the light would come on again. The first time it had several codes, changed the EGR vacuum solenoid and that fixed that one and two codes for the MAP sensor and a couple others that didn't show back up that my book didn't list what they where for.

But those two codes came back again.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Well I googled the coast clutch and it looks like fluid type can cause it.

I guess the first thing is I'll drain it all again and make sure its full of Dexron III/Mercon, I may have filled it with type F.

To used to the old ways.....
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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It also looks like I need to check the brown orange wire, pin 5 for a bad connection.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Ahh wait, don't the newer trucks have HEGO's and the old ones have reg o2 sensors?
All the trucks covered in the year range of this section of the forums use a heated O2 sensor. Early trucks used 3 wire sensors, while later models used a 4 wire.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Well then search me, I've got no clue why my repair manual says "oxygen sensors" can't be tested without damaging them.
 

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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You can't test resistance of an O2 sensor without damaging it, but just reading the sensor output voltage should not hurt anything.
 
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