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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Almost getting ready to pull engine

Hey guys. It's me again. I've been hiding out here trying to figure out what to do about my truck and I need some input from my fellow Ford owners. I will make a long story short....

The shop where I brought my truck said that my engine has to be replaced due to a bad cylinder and another one on its way. I don't know how this happend. I never even heard it happening to a 6.0L. One of the copper seals apparently came off the tip of the injector and damaged the cylinder. Is this possible? I ran everything stock except for what it sais in my sig. I have a picture of the injector in my profile. The truck was used for what it was meant for. WORK and LOTS of it.

I'm thinking of getting it taken over to the Ford dealership to get their opinion.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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What shop told you the motor was no good, and how much do they know about diesels? I had a similar situation in a 96 F250 work truck. Local mechanic said compression test failed and needed new motor. Took it to a Ford dealer I trusted for the new motor install and they said you've just got a bad turbo.

Make sure you take your recommendations from someone that knows these motors. (Not all Ford dealers do)
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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Yes, its a non ford dealer that i have trusted since i am off warranty. They don't know much about the 6.0L diesel. They have replaced my head gaskets and thats about it.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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"I ran everything stock except for what it sais in my sig."

Hypermax500 Head Gasket, ARP Head Studs, EGR Delete.
Spartan Diesel stage II injectors
Tripple guage pod pillar with trans temp, boost, and EGT.
SCT Xcal2 (Tunes Comming soon0
Cat and Muffler Delete (straight piped)
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Lol thats far from stock. Different injectors all together? that complicates things. Im sure the ford dealer will have lots of nice things to say to you about your mods. Goodluck!! hope u can get it fixed
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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Sorry, the injectors were never used. Same with the tunes. I only bought them thinking that since my truck was broken, it was time to replace the ol' factory ones with performance. So pretty much mild additions.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 05:35 AM
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Ask em to pull the heads, so you can see the damaged cylinder. If it has a lot of dents and scratches, it is gone.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Ohhhh Ok i see. Get those mods in haha. your truck will be damn fast and badass
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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I should of included that the truck runs, just not that great. It shakes and bucks when up to around 80km/h. Thats when they told me that I had a bad cylinder. At first they thought it was a bent push rod. When cranking over the engine, it would make a clunk sound, then slowly start to turn over then fire up. I am just frustrated.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by randomhero1172
"I ran everything stock except for what it sais in my sig."

Hypermax500 Head Gasket, ARP Head Studs, EGR Delete.
Spartan Diesel stage II injectors
Tripple guage pod pillar with trans temp, boost, and EGT.
SCT Xcal2 (Tunes Comming soon0
Cat and Muffler Delete (straight piped)
05 Power Elbow

Lol thats far from stock. Different injectors all together? that complicates things. Im sure the ford dealer will have lots of nice things to say to you about your mods. Goodluck!! hope u can get it fixed
of course you can get it fixed anything can be fixed. and who cares what ford says about his mods he already said it`s out of warranty so it`s on his dime now.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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I'm not sure how the copper seal could come off the tip of the injector and get in the cylinder. Maybe an injector nozzle broke off and damaged the cylinder wall? FWIW--you can get .020 oversized pistons and bore the block for a nominal fee, but I'd have the heads pulled to see if there was any cylinder wall damage FIRST. There are too many things that can cause a "bad cylinder". What kind of test did they run to determine that? Compression? Computer--i.e. contribution code? More details please if you can squeeze them out of his head.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Reidicus
Yes, its a non ford dealer that i have trusted since i am off warranty. They don't know much about the 6.0L diesel. They have replaced my head gaskets and thats about it.
That's what got my attention. Do they know much about modern diesels? Did the truck run fine after they did the gaskets? If so, for how long?

For my money, I'd research for a known-to-be-competent diesel mechanic that has knowledge of the 6.0, and at least go there for a 2nd opinion (and probably whatever work was required too). I've just had issues with going to a good general mechanic that ends up learning the particulars of my vehicle, on my dime (these lessons weren't even learned on a diesel, let alone one as complex as the 6.0 is).

That's my $.02 worth... Good luck to you as well...
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Johnny i was under the impression he was using spartan injectors! Thanks for over analyzing my initial statement You should consider a job as a newspaper editor
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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I really don't think warranty is of any concern here; Reid is fixing the truck himself- he is not trying to defraud anyone with any warranty claims and anyone who assumes such needs to read before writing. Any discussion about what a dealer thinks about anything concerning Reid's truck is irrelevant and ignorant dribble.

He has purchased a set of injectors from us; but never got to install them before other malfunctions alerted him to the fact that there were even more serious issues with his truck.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Did the truck run fine after they did the gaskets? If so, for how long?
The truck ran great for a year. No problem at all. I keep up on my fluid changes and maintenance to a T! No shortcuts or procrastination for this guy.

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What kind of test did they run to determine that? Compression? Computer--i.e. contribution code? More details please if you can squeeze them out of his head.
The truck was taken for a test run then stripped down again and looking into the cylinder you could see wear and tear on the cylinder. The codes can be found here in my earlier post.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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ouch! Maybe you can do like npccpartsman said and have it overbored, and get oversized pistons. I don't know how much it costs to rebore an engine, for all I know, it coudl be cheaper just to get a new engine
 
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