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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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http://www.apicj-4.org/index.html

http://www.clean-diesel.org/index.htm

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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Good information Bill. However, the CJ-4 sounds like its designed for 2007 or newer engines that have all the emissions crap.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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In the 2nd link notice the term Expect/Expected/Should.
Most oils on the shelf are CI or newer (CJ). CG is the last api that has the additive to combat sulfuric acids. Sulfuric acid is the byproduct from the fuel in the combustion chamber (from 500ppm or higher).
This has to do with long term effects (engine wear/corrode).
If you use high sulfur fuel you need to use a api of CG or less to keep piston rings and cyl bores from erroding. Its a 2 way street. If you use the CG with ULSD the additive will build up as carbon behind the piston ring causing excessive cyl wear.

I have to see if i still have copy's of the letters sent out by our good old US Goverment to the electric power plants on this issue.

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This all is another step to get all older diesels off the roads. Just like gas has emissions. It gets old cars off the roads.
 

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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Yep, I agrees with ya on the emissions. I did a little searching on it and it sounds like its the real high sulfur (1000-5000) is what kills ya on the engine wear. Anyhow, the oil I run right now is CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF. Good information to know down the road.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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2 stroke man,
are they going to allow all states to run off road fuel or just your state?
thanks
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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Where I buy my off road diesel they still have "high sulfer" diesel but it will be switching soon to ULSD they tell me.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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some CO-OP's sell off road fuel and even some gas stations have off road fuel. but beware thats where most ppl get busted for running off road fuel. if a cop saw you pumping in red no way your getting out of that ticket.
or you should be able to call your local fuel/oil company and they can deliver it in bulk.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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I just Googled Rotella T and their claim is that In July 21 they were delivering oil that met CJ-4 by the barrel and it was available Oct 15th in quarts, gallons and pails.

Just info for those that use Shell Rotella T

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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50- state!!!!!! yay!!!! still going through the ropes... but complain like heck to your reps!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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i uh "accidentaly" pumped some red in at a station and as i was pumping with one tank full, one half full, a state trooper goes by. looks right at me. slows down. oh SH##! i exclaimed. i think he went to turn around. i swipped my credit card and lit out like a bomb doin off
 
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