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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...w/4231461.html
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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And to think that such a device runs off of 1 small solar panel!
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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cool but i already see it being shot down from being put in use. heck, trying to even get non waxable decks was a challenge that failed (at least in the ssbn force).
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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cool but i already see it being shot down from being put in use. heck, trying to even get non waxable decks was a challenge that failed (at least in the ssbn force).
What. You guys have to wax those nuke subs?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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the decks.

they wanted to replace the tiles with waxless tiles. there was a huge uproaor over it, mainly from the cpo quarters.

the only excuse anyone can come up with for keeping things in the Navy the same way seems to be "tradition".

same with the new ddg? or one of those developmenting surface units, the design did not have a place for a quarter deck, poeple went about crazy over that one, but in the end the higher ups won, no de$ign change to incorporate a formal quarter deck.

just go ask around about the sea shadow. a nice experimental craft that came up with all these great ideas about things from design to manning. all to be denied by the Navy because it was not the traditional way to do things. only recently are they incorporating some of those things developed years ago in the sea shadow into our force.

also, go aboard a foreign submarine, like one from sweden or australia, their way of doing things seems light years ahead of us. yet again, only now are we even starting to get into incorporating new ideas into the fleet and future designs.

but the motivation factor has been money, or lack of and the increased pressure to reduce cost and manning onboard current ships and implement less manning in newer designs.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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Rail guns are not new but the article is saying it is being deployed. That's the news part.


I heard that they were for use in space.
 

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Rail guns are not new but the article is saying it is being deployed. That's the news part.
I must have missed that in the three times I read that article, it says it is NOT being deployed and probably won't be unless there is MAJOR improvments in materials as to currently they can't keep barrels in it. although this is the largest one ever tested and it actually being tested.

I think this quote basically sums it up on the point of actually being deployed

Effective rail guns will require a major breakthrough in materials between now and 2020, to keep the guns themselves from being shredded by each high-velocity barrage. Which means that for now, rail guns are precisely like lasers in one crucial way: They’re Holy Grails, irresistible precisely because they’re out of reach.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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I think I remember reading, back in the mid eighties that it was to fire a rectangular puck. The puck was laminated from several different componants. On impact the parts compressed together and create a high explosive.

Because it was fired in space the aerodynamics of the puck was unimportant.

I don't know if this is the same program.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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HAHAHA I obviously didn't read the whole article!!!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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Not something I know a lot about, but also (as I recall) from reading about them back in the 80s, I thought the whole deal with them was that the rails collapsed together behind the projectile during firing, so it was pretty much a one-shot (tho impressive) deal

update: Slowly getting a little education from further reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun

http://www.powerlabs.org/railgun.htm (cool site, original prototype shot 30 rounds before rails eroded)

Powerful repulsive buckling forces on rails - not sure what the old collapsing diagram I had stuck in my head was on about but apparently not something rooted in reality
 

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there is no way that the Navy brass is going to allow something to draw so much from the ship's propulsion. there of course could be design changes and such, but if the final product requires drawing power from the propulsion system to operate, and thus affecting the ship's operability, it is not going to happen.
 
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