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Nov 9, 2007 | 10:35 AM

#16

NeXtras

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Originally Posted by frederic

They visually inspect for a cat here in NJ as well.

And my truck won't pass without the cat - but I'm above 450k in mileage so that's totally understandable.

jeeez and i thought 180k was a lot

Nov 9, 2007 | 10:52 AM

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frederic

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180K is a lot. 480K is just more of a lot

I just got lucky... I've had trucks before this (all three US brands, including Ford) that didn't go very far before major trouble.

Most of my career required extensive travel - typically up and down the east coast, but my last employer included everything between Dayton Ohio, Boston, and Tampa.

It's a 15 y/o truck... so that's about 32-35k a year. Typical road-warrior stuff. Only the last year or so has this truck seen local mileage as I'm not employed at the moment. And the driveability has gone downhill very quickly sad to say. She's tired.

In contrast, the average NYC yellow taxi cab gets about 110K a year on the odometer, as they run the cars 20 hours a day in shifts. 15 miles an hour avg speed, 20 hours a day, 365 days a year.... 109,500 miles a year

Nov 9, 2007 | 04:19 PM

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mhg

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I have yet to find one at a parts store
but ford makes them for stock trucks that do not need the pump
my old 96 e-250 5.7 mass air had the idler pully from the factory
other than the above listed places and probably ford parts
unable to even find a listing for it

Nov 9, 2007 | 06:14 PM

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MustangGT221

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If I can put a belt on there w/o a bracket I'll do it that way...I took a quick look and it didn't look like it was that simple but I'll take a second look.

Nov 9, 2007 | 07:01 PM

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flareside_thunder

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I've looked and looked at mine and didn't see any way around it with a shorter belt......

JR

Nov 9, 2007 | 07:27 PM

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TheRoadVirus

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You do have to take off the air pump pulley, but it's only 3 bolts. After that it's very possible to get a shorter belt.

Nov 9, 2007 | 07:47 PM

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eco

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Originally Posted by MustangGT221

If I can put a belt on there w/o a bracket I'll do it that way...I took a quick look and it didn't look like it was that simple but I'll take a second look.

If the belt and pulley configuration of the 351 is the same as the 302 (it looked the same last time I saw a 351), it is that simple.

Nov 9, 2007 | 10:17 PM

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RC Dan

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Originally Posted by eco

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If I can put a belt on there w/o a bracket I'll do it that way...I took a quick look and it didn't look like it was that simple but I'll take a second look.
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If the belt and pulley configuration of the 351 is the same as the 302 (it looked the same last time I saw a 351), it is that simple.

This all depends on which tensioner set-up you have. They had one set-up with the tensioner on top between the alternator and the A/C pump. The other set-up had the tensioner between the alternator and the smog pump. I don't remember which years had which style, but I know later years had the side one.

Now if you have the above style tensioner, you can bypass the air pump easily. If you have the side style tensioner, you can bypass it, but you will probably have difficulties very soon. Your belt won't have proper tension, and may pop off easier.

I've gotten those idler pulleys off e-Bay before cheaper than that Summit one. I think I have a Billet Racing one or something like that. Its stayed straight and held up great so far(been a couple years, 30k miles or so).