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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Awhile back I was having trouble with my starter took it off had it looked at by a local repair shop they put a solenoid on sent me on my way see the prob was that you hit the key an i would get that sound as if you were missin teeth off the fly not the case here funny thing is that when the grinding sound occures if you shake the steering wheel or shift the gear selector into N the truck start I'm thinkin Ign sw has anyone else run into this??
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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I think that you are on the right track. It sounds like a safety switch involved in the ignition cycle isn't doing it's thing properly.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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I'm thinking someone needs to learn to use punctuation, so the rest of us can understand what he's talking about.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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My '01 has been through a couple of starters. There was a TSB on it. You can see it here:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/full...hp?tsb=03-20-5

Hope that gets you headed in the right direction,

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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JLDickmon
I'm thinking someone needs to learn to use punctuation, so the rest of us can understand what he's talking about.


That was COMPELTELY uncalled for and of no help whatsoever!

Any kind of suggestion like that is typically much better received behind closed doors in a one-on-one discussion, like with a PM... sort of like the one I sent you a few minutes ago.

Guys... please forgive the momentary hijack.


Now... to get back on track.

I'm glad you opened this thread tonight because I had the exact same symptom happen to me for the first time today and was going to start a similar thread myself.

Austin... excellent information... thanks for sharing it. I just may be using it myself as well in the coming days/weeks.
 

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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Thx Austin good info....F250 Thx for yours too
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by F250_


That was COMPELTELY uncalled for and of no help whatsoever!

Any kind of suggestion like that is typically much better received behind closed doors in a one-on-one discussion, like with a PM... sort of like the one I sent you a few minutes ago.

Guys... please forgive the momentary hijack.


Now... to get back on track.

I'm glad you opened this thread tonight because I had the exact same symptom happen to me for the first time today and was going to start a similar thread myself.

Austin... excellent information... thanks for sharing it. I just may be using it myself as well in the coming days/weeks.
If we're all done slamming the guy who may have the answer...
It took me two days to break this post down to figure it out which would have much easier and simpler if the post hadnt started as one run on sentence with no breaks where you could tell what was or is a symptom and what is extra information that might be handy to know at one point but otherwise clutters your thought process

see the prob was that you hit the key an i would get that sound as if you were missin teeth off the fly
you have a bad starter drive

if you shake the steering wheel or shift the gear selector into N the truck start
define this further... the truck will then CRANK, or the truck will then START?

either way, I hope you didn't replace anything electrical yet, because you very well may have wasted your money and added to your "known good" parts collection
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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I apologize to all for my part in this issue.

I should have left my comments in the PM stay where they were and not brought anything out publicly.

I was just trying to stand up for the OP who needed help, not criticism!
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AustinS
My '01 has been through a couple of starters. There was a TSB on it. You can see it here:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/full...hp?tsb=03-20-5

Hope that gets you headed in the right direction,

Austin
I had that happen to me once. I know what to check now. Thanks Austin.

Thank you Pete. I don't got no schooling so I do the best I can. And don't need someone telling me that.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by F250_
I apologize to all for my part in this issue.

I should have left my comments in the PM stay where they were and not brought anything out publicly.

I was just trying to stand up for the OP who needed help, not criticism!
At the risk of walking a fine line...
that street carries two-way traffic, mi amigo.

Look, I realize that most of the people posting here have real jobs, and tinker with their trucks for several reasons; Save money, hobby/relaxation, necessity, performance modifications, etc.

I'm willing to wager that there's only a small handful of "actual" light truck technicians that are active here.

That being said, as an aid to those who are willing to help you fix it right, and most importantly, fix it ONCE and as INEXPENSIVELY as possible (including F250_ and Austin), please be clear and accurate in your description of the problem. There's a big difference between "my truck won't start" and, "my truck wont crank."
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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1. im with JLDickmon but 2. i would aslo pull the starter and see if you can feel in there for missing teeth,on both the fly wheel/flexplate, and the starter. another good test is to pull the starter and have someone turn the key while you CAREFULLY watch the starter drive gear to see if it pops up or not,and to see if it even spins.it's not good if you stick your fingers too close to the drive gear while your buddy hits the key.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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After a lifetime of being a "fixer", mainly aircraft cockpit electronics, I came to appreciate the value of a clear, well-written "write-up" very early-on.

Be observant, take good notes, write it up without ambiguity, etc! It makes all the difference in how quickly you get it fixed, and the cost of getting it done.

Even now, when I'm asked to fix something, I ask a lot of questions first.

Case in point:

Yesterday I got a call from an elderly gentleman, telling me that his refrigerator door switch was bad again. He told me the last time it "did it" he was told to squirt some WD-40 in the switch, which brought it back to life. This was some ten years ago.

I asked him the make and model number, which he gave me. Before going over there today, I dropped by the appliance parts place and picked up another $10 switch.

I put in his new switch (yes the old one was gummed up and kinda stiff) and plugged the fridge back in. Lo and behold, he complained that, "It still does it". What? The bulb won't light. Why? It was burned out. He still paid for the switch.

The write-up shouldn't have been "Faulty, sticky, switch", it should have been, "Interior bulb won't light when door is opened".

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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JLDickmon
At the risk of walking a fine line...
that street carries two-way traffic, mi amigo.
First off... I'm not your buddy, friend, or any similar relation, regardless of what language you use.

Originally Posted by JLDickmon
That being said, as an aid to those who are willing to help you fix it right, and most importantly, fix it ONCE and as INEXPENSIVELY as possible (including F250_ and Austin), please be clear and accurate in your description of the problem. There's a big difference between "my truck won't start" and, "my truck wont crank."
Second... nahhh... it's just not worth the effort to type the words.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by F250_
First off... I'm not your buddy, friend, or any similar relation, regardless of what language you use.

Second... nahhh... it's just not worth the effort to type the words.
I can't help but notice, that in three replys to this thread and two PM's to me, you had absolutely nothing to say about the guy's problem.

Looks to me like you're trolling for a flame war.
 
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