Tundra Dually?
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Tundra Dually?
To go along with the "What a Truck" thread here is another...
http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/auto...radually1.html
http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/auto...radually1.html
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Pretty ugly. I dont understand why they bother to slap duals on there if they still never proved themselves to have a good enough frame to handle the payload a dually would anyways. Excessive bed bounce is caused by a weak frame also. The frame is the backbone to every vehicle. You also rate the capacity or strength of something by its weakest point. The frame is weak and its the backbone! Pretty scarry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRfE_XAk2mE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjTbiYo3x0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRfE_XAk2mE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjTbiYo3x0
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Here's a problem that needs to be addressed:
Where the hell is that truck going to park? Those new Tundra's take up every inch of space they can get at the Ford/Toyota dealership where I work...the longbed 4-doors are almost too long to get into the Toyota bays (which are smaller than the Ford bays because up until late, they were big enough).
People in my state have been driving pickups for a long time. All the towns have narrow downtown streets and everybody has narrow driveways where my old (new to me) '84 F150 will hardly fit.
I mean, don't get me wrong, the other trucks are bigger than ever. But this Tundra takes the cake...and it's got the weaker parts! Toyota just doesn't have any experience building big pickups...it'll be a while before they figure things out.
Where the hell is that truck going to park? Those new Tundra's take up every inch of space they can get at the Ford/Toyota dealership where I work...the longbed 4-doors are almost too long to get into the Toyota bays (which are smaller than the Ford bays because up until late, they were big enough).
People in my state have been driving pickups for a long time. All the towns have narrow downtown streets and everybody has narrow driveways where my old (new to me) '84 F150 will hardly fit.
I mean, don't get me wrong, the other trucks are bigger than ever. But this Tundra takes the cake...and it's got the weaker parts! Toyota just doesn't have any experience building big pickups...it'll be a while before they figure things out.
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I actually kinda like the way they did the dually fender flares.
The rest of the truck (in particular - the interior, and more specifically the instrument cluster) not so nice...
The rest of the truck (in particular - the interior, and more specifically the instrument cluster) not so nice...
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Originally Posted by condolan
Toyota just doesn't have any experience building big pickups...it'll be a while before they figure things out.
Now everyone says it about thier trucks. It won't be long before Toyota has an HD diesel.
They will not rest until they have total market domination. It might not happen in the first 10 years, it might not happen ever. But they will definitely try and definitely take even more market share from the "domestic's" bread and butter lines.
What is really wrong with the Tundra? Bad tailgates? Easily fixable. Some bad initial cams? Already fixed.
Mike
Edit: I don't always like to be the one beating the Toyota drum around here, but someone has to talk some sense. The writing is clearly on the wall in day glow flouresent, glow in the dark, 72pt font, italic, bold, underlined paint.
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Originally Posted by condolan
Here's a problem that needs to be addressed:
Where the hell is that truck going to park? Those new Tundra's take up every inch of space they can get at the Ford/Toyota dealership where I work...the longbed 4-doors are almost too long to get into the Toyota bays (which are smaller than the Ford bays because up until late, they were big enough).
People in my state have been driving pickups for a long time. All the towns have narrow downtown streets and everybody has narrow driveways where my old (new to me) '84 F150 will hardly fit.
I mean, don't get me wrong, the other trucks are bigger than ever. But this Tundra takes the cake...and it's got the weaker parts! Toyota just doesn't have any experience building big pickups...it'll be a while before they figure things out.
Where the hell is that truck going to park? Those new Tundra's take up every inch of space they can get at the Ford/Toyota dealership where I work...the longbed 4-doors are almost too long to get into the Toyota bays (which are smaller than the Ford bays because up until late, they were big enough).
People in my state have been driving pickups for a long time. All the towns have narrow downtown streets and everybody has narrow driveways where my old (new to me) '84 F150 will hardly fit.
I mean, don't get me wrong, the other trucks are bigger than ever. But this Tundra takes the cake...and it's got the weaker parts! Toyota just doesn't have any experience building big pickups...it'll be a while before they figure things out.
The only way to get experience building big trucks is to build them. They didn't have any experience building big cars either but the Lexus is a top notch car now
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Originally Posted by BLK94F150
Mike
Edit: I don't always like to be the one beating the Toyota drum around here, but someone has to talk some sense. The writing is clearly on the wall in day glow flouresent, glow in the dark, 72pt font, italic, bold, underlined paint.
Edit: I don't always like to be the one beating the Toyota drum around here, but someone has to talk some sense. The writing is clearly on the wall in day glow flouresent, glow in the dark, 72pt font, italic, bold, underlined paint.
As for the truck, Personally, I think it looks better than the new SD. ( my opinion of course ) Let me add before the linching party gathers, I do like the new SD.
I rank them in this order:
1. Dodge
2. Ford SD
3. Tundra Dually ( if it were available )
4. Chevy/GMC
Keep in mind these are all opinion.
I don't like the interior and that shifter has got to go..... ( dually Tundra )
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GOD that interior is ugly. ewwww!
Also, if they were to actually produce that truck with an 8.0L diesel I would **** my pants. People would buy it thinking it was so cool, then bitch because it got 8 mpg around town.
Also, if they were to actually produce that truck with an 8.0L diesel I would **** my pants. People would buy it thinking it was so cool, then bitch because it got 8 mpg around town.
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Originally Posted by BLK94F150
I think we've all heard this before. I think Ford, GM, and Dodge were saying this in the 70s and 80s with Toyota's cars.
Now everyone says it about thier trucks. It won't be long before Toyota has an HD diesel.
They will not rest until they have total market domination. It might not happen in the first 10 years, it might not happen ever. But they will definitely try and definitely take even more market share from the "domestic's" bread and butter lines.
What is really wrong with the Tundra? Bad tailgates? Easily fixable. Some bad initial cams? Already fixed.
Mike
Edit: I don't always like to be the one beating the Toyota drum around here, but someone has to talk some sense. The writing is clearly on the wall in day glow flouresent, glow in the dark, 72pt font, italic, bold, underlined paint.
Now everyone says it about thier trucks. It won't be long before Toyota has an HD diesel.
They will not rest until they have total market domination. It might not happen in the first 10 years, it might not happen ever. But they will definitely try and definitely take even more market share from the "domestic's" bread and butter lines.
What is really wrong with the Tundra? Bad tailgates? Easily fixable. Some bad initial cams? Already fixed.
Mike
Edit: I don't always like to be the one beating the Toyota drum around here, but someone has to talk some sense. The writing is clearly on the wall in day glow flouresent, glow in the dark, 72pt font, italic, bold, underlined paint.
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Originally Posted by FTE Fred
I actually kinda like the way they did the dually fender flares.
The rest of the truck (in particular - the interior, and more specifically the instrument cluster) not so nice...
The rest of the truck (in particular - the interior, and more specifically the instrument cluster) not so nice...
I love the 8.0 since they can get it in there. Whether it works like it should is completely different.
Toyota's aren't known for bad mileage BTW.
Furthermore, cylinder configuration has nothing to do with anything big rig related. They are making huge displacement I4's V6's and V8's for use in "Heavy Duty" equipment. There are 2 reasons for I6...it's tradition.....and it's tradition.
Configuration anymore seems to be whatever and however the engineers can most easily get stuff stuffed under the hood and make it most user friendly and servicable. It's not about hp, torque, reliabilty, balance, or anything else.
Everyone says overhauls are easier on an I6, but who overhauls a pickup? Let alone anything else besides a semi. Even that is questionable at best compared to the price of a guaranteed reman engine. Not to mention pulling a 6.4 out of a ford is nothing short of a Miracle. GM's and Dodge seem to be about the same even though they are of different cylinder configurations.