Notices
6.4L Power Stroke Diesel Engine fitted to 2008 - 2010 F250, F350 and F450 pickup trucks and F350 + Cab Chassis

Anyone use Amsoil?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:54 PM
  #1  
Black450's Avatar
Black450
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Anyone use Amsoil?

I'm not ready for my first oil change, but just wondering if anyone uses Amsoil or has any thoughts about it? I remember my old neighbor using it and I recently read some things about it online. What do ya'll think about it?
 
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:41 AM
  #2  
blackhat620's Avatar
blackhat620
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,196
Likes: 10
From: Arizona
Originally Posted by Black450
I'm not ready for my first oil change, but just wondering if anyone uses Amsoil or has any thoughts about it? I remember my old neighbor using it and I recently read some things about it online. What do ya'll think about it?
The 6.4 PSD requires oil that is API CJ-4 certified & licensed, do to the 2007 emissions, USLD fuel and DPF system. Amsoil does not currently have an API CJ-4 certified & licensed oil.

Here are couple of recent threads on the subject.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/66...-cj-4-oil.html

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/66...the-6-4-a.html
 
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 08:38 AM
  #3  
Maxium4x4's Avatar
Maxium4x4
Super Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 21,113
Likes: 3,939
From: Ohio
Club FTE Gold Member
Amsoil is always a hot topic around here. It can be used in a diesel. The problem is Amsoil in the Powerstroke does not get along with the high pressure oil that fires the injectors, common rail it is fine.

My dealer has one die hard Amsoil fanatic that complains constantly and argues he has bad injectors. When hooked up to the WDS the injector imbalance is high which makes the truck run very rough, once the oil is changed no more problems. Later in the year, same problem once he changes back to Amsoil...

The whole Amsoil theory is to go long intervals to save money, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out his dealer visits have cut well into his budget.

The Powerstroke loves fresh oil, and no air introduced into the high pressure oil system. Look for the API rating on the oil you use. That insures the oil will not foam or shear under the conditions the Powerstroke needs to run properly.

Salesmen can sell anything, I am sure people who live southern Florida would buy snow shovels if approached with the right attitude.
 
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 03:59 PM
  #4  
SuperDuty P/U's Avatar
SuperDuty P/U
New User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: Central PA
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-40 is the best pick for API CJ-4 emission standard diesel oil required by year model 2007 and newer model diesel engines. This premium diesel oil provides superb lubrication for engines found in diesel fleets, commercial diesel engines, and personal diesel-engined vehicles. Formulated with the most modern of additives and synthetic-based oil technology, this diesel engine oil far surpasses the increased demands of performance- based newer engines. AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-40 diesel engine oil withstands the punishment of soot, acids and heat to aid in resisting wear, deposits and corrosion. This diesel engine oil, with its wide range of viscosity, is perfect for both summer and winter use. It defends against breakdown and, if checked by analysis of the oil, the drain intervals can be extended.



Amsoil does carry a API CJ 4 oil that is used for 07 and newer.
 
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 04:10 PM
  #5  
blackhat620's Avatar
blackhat620
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,196
Likes: 10
From: Arizona
Originally Posted by SuperDuty P/U
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-40 is the best pick for API CJ-4 emission standard diesel oil required by year model 2007 and newer model diesel engines. This premium diesel oil provides superb lubrication for engines found in diesel fleets, commercial diesel engines, and personal diesel-engined vehicles. Formulated with the most modern of additives and synthetic-based oil technology, this diesel engine oil far surpasses the increased demands of performance- based newer engines. AMSOIL Synthetic 5W-40 diesel engine oil withstands the punishment of soot, acids and heat to aid in resisting wear, deposits and corrosion. This diesel engine oil, with its wide range of viscosity, is perfect for both summer and winter use. It defends against breakdown and, if checked by analysis of the oil, the drain intervals can be extended.

Amsoil does carry a API CJ 4 oil that is used for 07 and newer.
Actually No they do Not. Amsoil only has one "API Certified & Licensed" diesel oil and it is the semi-synthetic PCO in 15W-40 and is API CI-4+ certified & licensed.
http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseI...LicenseNo=0995

The information you cut and pasted from the Amsoil website is slick marketing by Amsoil an they would like you to believe there oil is API CJ-4 certified & licensed, it is not however and therefore does not meet FMC engine oil requirements.

When and oil is API Certified & Licensed it must carry the "Starburst &/or Donut". There are very specific rules set down by API that all licensed oils and oil licensees must follow for there oil to be API Certified. Amsoil is an API licensee, they just do not have any "API CJ-4 certified & licensed" oils.
http://new.api.org/aboutoilgas/motor...lity-marks.cfm

Please read the links posted in my previous post as this is addressed in more detail.

Here is the link to all current API CJ-4 "certified & licensed" motor oil, please note Amsoil is Not on the list.
http://eolcs.api.org/FindBrandByServ...eCategory=CJ-4
 

Last edited by blackhat620; Oct 30, 2007 at 04:15 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 04:18 PM
  #6  
SuperDuty P/U's Avatar
SuperDuty P/U
New User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: Central PA
Sorry my mistake!!!!!
 
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 04:22 PM
  #7  
blackhat620's Avatar
blackhat620
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,196
Likes: 10
From: Arizona
Originally Posted by SuperDuty P/U
Sorry my mistake!!!!!
Not a problem, unfortunately this mistake has been made by many in the past and will be made by others in the future. Marketing departments can skew the facts with key "weasel" (ie. recommended) words to sway a consumer into believing they are purchasing something that they are in fact really not.

This is the great thing about FTE, the members are known to be doubtful of marketing and request verifiable proof with supporting documents. Fortunately with the internet the API site is now readily available to all, so the truth can be found.

Also for more oil info FTE has an oil forum and then there is the grandaddy of oil forum BITOG
www.bobistheoilguy.com/
 
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 04:29 PM
  #8  
SuperDuty P/U's Avatar
SuperDuty P/U
New User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: Central PA
Thanks for the info.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 05:45 PM
  #9  
mervyn jennett's Avatar
mervyn jennett
New User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
From: calgary alberta canada
the misinformed person or persons about amsoil to make it simple just look on the amsoil container & you will see API-CJ4 this is all yuo need to know & ford says ok so not to be worried about amsoil
 
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 05:51 PM
  #10  
blackhat620's Avatar
blackhat620
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,196
Likes: 10
From: Arizona
Originally Posted by mervyn jennett
the misinformed person or persons about amsoil to make it simple just look on the amsoil container & you will see API-CJ4 this is all yuo need to know & ford says ok so not to be worried about amsoil
Please see this thread
www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum169/

Read the requirements of labeling for API Certification & Licensing. Amsoil is an API member but only has 1 API Certified Diesel Oil and it is PCO CI-4+.

Amsoil is scamming you with their labling on the DEO bottles. It does not meet the licensing requirements.

Check the API website links have been posted numerous times, please read and study them.
http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseI...LicenseNo=0995

Amsoil Does NOT meet FMC engine oil requirements for the 6.4 PSD.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:26 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE