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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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If money has a lot to do with it, why aren't the Mets there instead of the Rockies?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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Who ask were the team with the #1 payroll is. Are you serious? Comparing the #1 and #2 payroll team to the #2 and #26 payroll team is apples to oranges. Flame on
You are the one who stated that the Red Sox are sure to win because they are the #2 payroll and the Rockies are the #26 th.
I didn't compare the #1 and #2 payroll teams to the #2 and #26.

I just stated that the #1 payroll team is on the outside looking in.

Based on your statement they should be in the World Series just because they have the biggest payroll..

The bigger the payroll the more likely they will have the best players, but it DOES NOT guarantee a championship...

Flame off.......
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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Could be, but Billy Buckner wasn't Boston's Cinderella, that's fer sure.

If Boston wants to win, they better leave Eric GAG-ne on the bench...especially in Mile High Denver!
Did anyone see Gagme protect that 12 run lead? He was sharp! He really is good in these high pressure situations.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by donjamer

The bigger the payroll the more likely they will have the best players, but it DOES NOT guarantee a championship...

Flame off.......
No it doesn't but it sure does increase your odds. You just said yourself that the bigger payroll has the best players.
 

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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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you make it seem like boston went out and bought those players in the off season. that group of players has been there for years, what you seem to forget, is all those ROLL PLAYERS that dont have a huge contract, that have come through even more than the superstars.

if ya really dont watch and follow this team, your input of the #2 payroll team, is only in the world series because of that reason, your sadly mistaken
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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Gotta love it...the biggest payroll tag that we Saawx fans have used to diss the Yankmees all these years is being used against our beloved boys of summer!!! The Saawx have become the "Evil Empire" of these playoffs. Doesn't matter how much you spend...you still have to come up with the right guys...have the right chemistry. Don't forget...a great deal of the Saawx roster came up through the system...or were acquired through trades. Beckett, Lowell, Ortiz, Crisp, Youkilis, Pedroia, Varitek, Ellsbury...were all acquired through means other than free agency!!! My prediction remains the same...Saawx in five...Papelbon will do that ridiculous step dance in Colorado!!!
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sierraben
OK you colorado fans; rangerfan just called your team a bunch of "tards". If I were you guys, I'd be pissed.

OK you Boston fans; rangerfan just called your team possibly the next Yankees organization.
If I were you guys, I'd almost be pissed.

I'm confused... tell me again what the difference is between a tard and a Yankee?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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The players listed above like Becket, Ortiz, and Lowell to name just a few came from trades made by teams considered "small market". Once a play reaches a higher level that said small market team must trade the player for prospects because once the player's contract expires they walk away and the smaller team gets nothing in return. Spin that how ever you want to.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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ya whatever, i dont care if there payroll is #2 or #52............i dont get on teams for winning because of payroll. im a redsox fan, and saw the yankees desimate them for the 30 years ive breathed oxygen on this planet, and never once did i think the reason the yankees were winning titles over the redsox was payroll. they had a better team, and played better when the time came.

cause if the rockies have zilch for a payroll, what does that say for every other team in the n.l. that has a higher payroll, but not currently playing

its one thing to reach the playoffs, its another to advance through it.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by freirefishing
im a redsox fan, and saw the yankees desimate them for the 30 years ive breathed oxygen on this planet, and never once did i think the reason the yankees were winning titles over the redsox was payroll.
I know of at least one person who would disagree with you - G Steinbrenner.

I've been a sox fan for... well let's just say a lot longer than 30 years, and the Yankees have always been known as "the best team money can buy". And not just by Sox fans.

It is kinda funny to be on the other side of the fence (real or not) after all those years. I think there's some truth the being able to buy talent, but it takes more than that to win...
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by freirefishing
and never once did i think the reason the yankees were winning titles over the redsox was payroll.
You don't expect me to believe that do you?

The Rocks got hot at the right time that why they are in the spot they are now.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerfan
The players listed above like Becket, Ortiz, and Lowell to name just a few came from trades made by teams considered "small market". Once a play reaches a higher level that said small market team must trade the player for prospects because once the player's contract expires they walk away and the smaller team gets nothing in return. Spin that how ever you want to.
Hey, rangerfan, small market teams aren't necessarily at the disadvantage that you might think they are. With the onset of revenue sharing the so called small market teams have the wherewithal to sign their veteran players. Ownership chooses to utilize these funds to line their pockets...their prerogative...they have the risk...they can do with the revenues as they please. Some of the teams...IE Saawx/Yankmees amongst others choose to put those profits back into the team...free agents...lucrative contracts for their veterans...developing a farm system so you can make those late season acquisitions to put your team over the edge (that's how the Saawx got Larry Anderson and Mike Boddicker...two pitchers who helped them tremendously in pennant runs).

By the way...Ortiz was just cast aside by the Twins...they didn't think he would amount to anything...the Saawx were about the only team to take a shot on him...signed him for short money...about a million a year...and if you remember...he was trying to get them to release/trade him the first year he was here due to lack of playing time. Glad that didn't happen!!!

Becket and Lowell didn't come cheaply...they cost the Saawx one of the best young players in league (Ramirez)...a pitcher who chucked a no-no last year (Sanchez)...and another young pitcher who is a promising prospect. I would still make that trade in a heart beat!!! The Saawx might still get Ramirez back when he is eligible for free agency!!!

Enough ranting for now...GO EVIL EMPIRE!!!
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Your *using code* Blue text in EVERY post is annoying and quite difficult to read.
Why can't you just post normal like everyone else ?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerfan
You don't expect me to believe that do you?

The Rocks got hot at the right time that why they are in the spot they are now.

so if your payroll ensures you victories, then we would see #1 payroll from n.l. vs. #1 payroll from a.l.


kevin y., dustin p., varitek.,elsbury.,midlle relievers, papplebon.,lowell, who make up the lower end of the payroll, are doing as much as the payroll eaters.

roll players,consistency, is why there where they are.



and the reason why i said what i said about the yanks is, there highest payroll ever, hasnt produced anything in a while, not even a trip to the world series.

baseball over the last few years has way more talent than ever before, widespread throughout the league, with the addition of players being stronger,introduction of foreign players, roids(j/k)..........................money could buy you championships in the past, not today.

consistency is what will do it. the redsox, had the best record in the league throughout 99% of the season, and the CONSISTENCY is why there still playing.

and consistency is why they will hang the 2007 W.S. banner in fenway
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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I think Blue is cool since it is not raining and the sky is blue and we are going win the world series....Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!


 
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