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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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GoodBye V10!

Just sold my 2001 F250 V10 4x4 CC longbed. I absolutely loved this truck.

Put Borla headers, Superchip tuner and AEM CAI on it and it hauled *****!!

At 117k miles, it never gave me a bit of trouble. I learned an awful lot about this truck/engine most of which I placed into use. I'm a fair backyard mechanic but the information available here really raised my level of expertise not to mention saving me a lot of time and money.

BUT am I glad I bought the 2001 F350 7.3 4x4 DRW that I have now. Even with the 4.11 rear end (LS) I get 19-20 around town. My V10, even with all new filters, new fluids, new plugs, etc. never got better than 12 aound town and towing was even worse: 8-10 mpg!!!

I was never a diesel fan but the Powerstroke has won me over. And from what I have read so far during my diesel education these engines respond very favorably to modifications.

So call me a deserter if you will but adios to all of you here in V10 land and continue the good work as well as spending ALL OF THAT GAS $$$$$.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Deserter? No way!

Come back and visit, and check out the newbie's posts and answer anything you know anything about

Good luck with the "new" truck !
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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Have fun with the higher gas prices

Glad you're happy with your 7.3, I can't wait to get rid of mine. I'm tired of the stink, vibration, noise, sluggish response, noise, expensive repairs, noise, million dollar oil changes, & noise

Stop in and say hi sometime!!
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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Hows that diesel do if your next to someone at a stoplight and you want to get past em quickly to merge back over?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Hey Krewat, the diesel is not as good as my V10 was, that is for sure! But not really that far off. I am hoping that when I do the basic mods such as 4" exhaust, DP tuner and and cold air filter kit that I will be able to match the V10 for that kind of passing situation. I bought my 7.3 with just 94k miles on it so it is in really good shape and ready for many more miles. Thanks for the note, Uliman
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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uliman

I came from a 7.3L PSD to the V10

Glad you found a diesel you can be happy with.... careful with the mods until you bullet proof the drive train (voice of experiance here)

The 7.3 can be made to put out over 700HP very easily and not too expensive...but you will snuff the 4R100, transfer case and drive shaft in short order unless you significantly beef up the trany internals

Be aware that once you do all the power mods to the PSD your MPG will go down in town (mostly becaus of your right foot)

Out on the higway, with a serious load on, you MUST run the rig by watching the EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) so get a GOOD post turbo gage
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Fred, that is excellent advice. The gauges will be installed before any mods will be made. The EGTs are most important to be looked at especially when towing. Since I plan on keeping this truck for awhile (hate payments and paid cash for this one) I will likely go with a transmission like ATS or similar. I have found out that a bullet proof tranny will set me back close to $5k including the install but I find that to be a worthwhile investment.

I found out that 93% of all F350s (at least for my year - 2001) came with the 7.3. Interesting that you switched to the V10 from the Powerstroke. Aside from the MPGs, what are the most striking differences to you?

Thanks for all of the replies.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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Fred speaks truth...I have a new Extreem Duty transmission (another $3500 bill on this truck this year) and I have NO MODS. It pulled my boat just a handfull of times a year short distances. It was never abused. Once you see it puke fluid, that's the beginning of the end.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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Uliman

I got a way "to good to pass up" deal from a local dealer on a 2001 Platinum Edition 2v V10 that they could not sell because we are in solid Diesel Truck country.

While my PSD was sidelined for drive line repairs we used the new truck to haul all of our family, dogs, toys and trailer from near sea level Central Texas up to our vacation cabin near Vail Colorado.

Our route there and back is over some of the steepest and tallest mountain passes in America...

The over grossed F250 preformed as well as the PSD, got OK fuel mileage, was much more quiet (even during the High RPM steep sections) and I was not constantly watching my gages wondering when the next part was going to fail on the PSD.... This made for a much more relaxed and calmer Dad...My wife and semi adult children told me flat out when we got to the cabin that they did not ever want to use the F350 dually for the trip again....Less Noise, No bad Smell, and Dad being calmer was their reasons... I agreed, sold the PSD and never looked back...

Properly configured, the V10 powered trucks are more economical to own and maintain and can do 90% of every thing a PSD can do.

I am still a fan for the 7.3L PSD so I hope you get as much service and enjoyment out of yours as is possible.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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sorry to see the V 10 go but hopefully it can make another happy owner

but good luck
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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I think that if Diesel fuel wasn't $.60 more a gallon here they would be selling a lot better... I see almost as many V8/V10 gassers now as Diesels... a few years ago it was like everyone had a diesel SD
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Matts72
I think that if Diesel fuel wasn't $.60 more a gallon here they would be selling a lot better... I see almost as many V8/V10 gassers now as Diesels... a few years ago it was like everyone had a diesel SD
that must be regional. we did a search for a v10 to test drive yesterday at the dealer and only 6 came up including 3 states! the closest to me is almost a 3hour drive. one in the north 1/2 of wi. my fathers company buys lots of trucks and i talked it over with the head of sales at the local dealer. he says pros and cons to both engines. he will sell me a truck for $300 over invoice plus incentives - does not care what i order. does not care when. no pressure. did not try to sway me either way. says if i want to trade it in in 3 or 4 yrs it will be hard to sell the v10 in north wi. 4 dealers have all told me the same thing. i guess most sd buyers around here dont come to this site. maybe it is because i live in an agricultural area?
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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that must be regional. we did a search for a v10 to test drive yesterday at the dealer and only 6 came up including 3 states! the closest to me is almost a 3hour drive. one in the north 1/2 of wi. my fathers company buys lots of trucks and i talked it over with the head of sales at the local dealer. he says pros and cons to both engines. he will sell me a truck for $300 over invoice plus incentives - does not care what i order. does not care when. no pressure. did not try to sway me either way. says if i want to trade it in in 3 or 4 yrs it will be hard to sell the v10 in north wi. 4 dealers have all told me the same thing. i guess most sd buyers around here dont come to this site. maybe it is because i live in an agricultural area?
My father is a fleet manager for a Ford truck (no cars) dealer in San Antonio. They had 8 V10s 2 moths ago and suddenly they're all gone. He sees more and more cutomers interested in this motor.

I've read your posts in the 6.4 forum. You say that math is where you find your understanding of things. Get out your calculator or pencil and start working the numbers. Factor in maintainance, fuel costs and purchase costs.
Go to kbb and edmunds web sites and look at resale values for v10 and diesel trucks in the last 3 years and compare them to their new values. Then you will have made a logical, mathematical decision.

Woodhouse Ford in Nebraska, on the Iowa border has a great selection of new V10 trucks. Not too far a drive for you on a sunny Saturday.

http://www60.forddirect.fordvehicles...VLS&statetoken=

Use the selection menu on the left and you can chose the model (F250/350), cab configuration and motor you want. It will pull up all of the selected truck in their inventory. Then you can select an individual truck to look at.

As to the original post, hope that new truck works out for you. Drop in from time to time.
 

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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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My father is a fleet manager for a Ford truck (no cars) dealer in San Antonio. They had 8 V10s 2 moths ago and suddenly they're all gone. He sees more and more cutomers interested in this motor.

I've read your posts in the 6.4 forum. You say that math is where you find your understanding of things. Get out your calculator or pencil and start working the numbers. Factor in maintainance, fuel costs and purchase costs.
Go to kbb and edmunds web sites and look at resale values for v10 and diesel trucks in the last 3 years and compare them to their new values. Then you will have made a logical, mathematical decision.

Woodhouse Ford in Nebraska, on the Iowa border has a great selection of new V10 trucks. Not too far a drive for you on a sunny Saturday.

http://www60.forddirect.fordvehicles.com/Dispatch.jsp?__action=&__action2=&.CurrentState=Se archServiceZipCode&DispatchBindingSet=zipcode&zipC ode=68008&processZipCode=ToVLS&statetoken=

Use the selection menu on the left and you can chose the model (F250/350), cab configuration and motor you want. It will pull up all of the selected truck in their inventory. Then you can select an individual truck to look at.

As to the original post, hope that new truck works out for you. Drop in from time to time.

the 4 dealers closest to me (one is the largest auto dealer in wi - multiple dealerships) have sold a total of zero v10's in the new sd. everybody claims they are too thirsty. they must not yet realize how the new 6.4 is not doing as well in the mgp due to the new emissions equip.

the math definately says v10. i check the computer at work for a short break now and then. driving 3 hours to test drive is a bit more difficult.

they only reason for me to buy a dz is because i like the sound/feel and it would be easier (not cheeper) to trade in or sell if i change my mind in 3-4 yrs. i have been running gassers my whole life and my truck is the one area i am allowed to splurge. i work up to 120 hours a week and this would be my sports car, so to speak. my truck and my bobcat toolcat are the two man toys i am allowed by the boss! a kr cc dz is still cheaper than all those ridiculously expensive suv's you see driving around the big cities in 2wd their whole lives. the 2008 toyota land cruiser list price without any options is 64,000 - crazy. i can't rationally explain why i like the sound/feel of the dz but i do. just don't want to spend time taking it to the dealer for repairs - that really pisses me off - the reason i have been driving toyotas. i think the new sd is better put together than the new tundra. all my questions are trying to figure out if i am going to screw up the engine and emissions driving 4 miles to work and back every day with the random 40-60 mile trip and tow. all my towing is during non-winter months.
 

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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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they must not yet realize how the new 6.4 is not doing as well in the mgp due to the new emissions equip.

the math definately says v10. all my questions are trying to figure out if i am going to screw up the engine and emissions driving 4 miles to work and back every day with the random 40-60 mile trip and tow. all my towing is during non-winter months.
All of your questions have been answered in various threads. The choice is now yours. Get what you really want and be happy.

You see very few posts like the OP has put here. And good reason for it. I left my '05 V10 for a F150 and was never very satisfied. When I bought my boat it was time for me to get back into a Super Duty. I never even considered a diesel because of my experience with this motor. Good luck.
 
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