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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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Help with brakes!!

I have recently bought a 78 F-150, that has no brakes. First I thought brake pads would fix it since the others were wore out. I replaced pads on back, front seemed to be ok. Next I thought master cylinder, so I replaced it. Still didin't fix it. I have no visible leaks. Brakes have been gravity and pressure bleed. Any ideas?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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Need more info here. does the truck have absoloutley no brakes, or weak brakes?

Could be the rubber lines "balooning" under pressure.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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It has very weak brakes. Im getting frustrated cause I think I have checked everything. I've heard the PPV valve might be bad so that will be the next thing I check. When I bought the truck a month ago I had brakes, no after replacing rear brake pads, lines, and new wheel cylinders the braking has gotton worse.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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on soft gravel, at about 30 mph, can you lock up any of the wheels?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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did you do a good job bleeding the brakes after u put in new lines?
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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I can't lock up any brakes. If I pump the brakes several times I can get it to stop but they won't lock up. I think I did a good job bleeding them, have done it a couple of time to it now.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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check vac. line to power booster also adgustment of rear brakes
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Most Great Brakes don't lock up.

I suggest you have a BPPV problem. (Brake Proportioning Valve)

They rust up inside from sitting (Brake fluid absorbs water)

I bet the truck has been sitting for while ?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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I appreciate all the help. I've thought about the valve also. Although the truck hasn't been sitting all that long. When I bought the truck a month ago the brakes worked fine. The seem to just be getting worse. The more I do the more frustrated i get. is there any way of checking the valve to see if its working right. I don't think you can just buy a new one. Also I will check the vacuum hose as well.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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my brakes go soft after sitting in stop and go traffic. What could be causing this
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mil1ion
Most Great Brakes don't lock up.
Good brakes should be able to be locked up on soft gravel if you try. I'm not saying lock-up is a good thing for normal braking, but it's one of the simple diagnostic tests you can do if you suspect one corner is having problems.

In this case, I also suspect the prop valve or the master cylender
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Well from all the responses I think its the PPV valve also and will check it or replace it tomorrow. I hope this does it, or I might have a 78 for sale.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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I had a problem that sounded very similar to yours with my 78 and I replaced the entire brake system minus the ppv because they cant be bought at the parts store and it didn't fix the problem. A week later I pulled one of a truck in a junk yard and lo and behold my brakes worked fine. I believe that will fix your problem. Was the MC bench bled when replaced. I also had a problem because of that.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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yes the MC was bench bled. I will replace the PPV valve and re-bled the system and hopefully it will fix the problem. Keep thinking though because of my luck it wont and I will still need advice.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by seventyseven250
Good brakes should be able to be locked up on soft gravel if you try. r

You know I was talking about "On Pavement"
 
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