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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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Interstate 5 crash - deadly

This happened late Friday night when it was raining in Southern California, the 5/14 interchange in the 'trucks only' bypass tunnel. They don't know exactly why the accident happened yet, but I would guess speed and a rain slicked, narrow tunnel.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21276017/

The radio report that I heard this afternoon stated that the two dead truck drivers were burned beyond recognition. If that doesn't send chills up your spine then nothing will. That's just got to be horribly terrifying.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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with the way that the country is letting foreigners out onto our roads not only in cars but in trucks.. this is going to be the trend
fact in NY the governor is now trying to pass legislation to let illegals drivers licenses
fact they are pulling millions of immigrants off of welfare. these people dont want to or refuse to learn english and are given the welfare approved quickie course and set loose on the roads driving trash over the east coast and school busses
they are also letting mexican drivers on our roads now too in the south
then they wonder why there are so many of these kinds of accidents this is like the thrid or fourth ive heard of in recent memory
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Hey, ranger1999bob, kind of harsh if I read you correctly. It seems you are blaming the tragedy on illegal alien drivers...based on what...do you have info that others haven't seen? The video showed one trucker...a good ole boy...and an interview with a the daughter of a Mexican(??) driver that was missing...and presumably dead. It's a tragedy...plain and simple...no need to rush to judgement and place blame before all the facts are in. Thoughts and prayers to all the victims...regardless of race. creed, nationality, or immigration status.

Just my thoughts!!!
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Please, if you want to complain about Illegal Immigration, start another thread.


It seems most likely that the rain and probably excessive speed were the factors involved here. It's a narrow 2-lane tunnel on a downhill run that curves to the left. A good recipe for an accident if someone is in a hurry, especially at night (10:45 PM).

Back on topic please!
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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I feel sorry for the family of those lost in the accident. But you're probably right with the road being slick from the rain all it takes is one knuckle head who refuses to slow down and then you get what happened here.

A few years back we had a bunch of fog roll in one night and brought down the visiblity to zero. Of course one of the drivers didn't think they needed to slow down and caused an 87 car pileup. It scares me to drive on the highways anymore.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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That is terrible and I feel sorry for the families.

Who knows exactly the cause. Yesterday, I noticed many people about running into each other and all who made the mistake (like not stopping quick enough or turning into the wrong turning lane) were on their cell phone. Boy, I see that alot. So, all it takes is a cell phone and combine that with bad weather, speed, and traffic congestion, all equals bad things.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 03:36 AM
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Are you sure that was in the trucks only bypass tunnel? If so, why would the entire freeway be shut down if only a bypass was affected? There's a car/truck tunnel further up I-5...isn't that the tunnel where the accident happened?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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It was in the southbound bypass tunnel. It's got everything screwed up because CA-14 dumps all traffic into the I-5 truck lanes. Also, the tunnel (as I remember) carries the northbound car lanes OVER the southbound truck lanes (it's been a month or so since I went through it).

Other than lowered speed limits, I really have to wonder what this holds in store for us trucks in that area... That stretch of highway has been functionally obsolete for about 20 years now, and has been absolute nightmare ever since I've been OTR (going on 9 years).

-blaine
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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30 trucks

1 car

9 missing drivers

They are "confident" only 3 dead.

I suppose if you were illegal, or had arrest warrants, or were driving a stolen rig, or were just a dumb as a post, you would run and hide after escaping the wreck and fire.

It'll be interesting to see what they come up with here.
 
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This is the most dangerous time of year on the freeways in California. It hasn't rained here in 4 or 5 months, and the rain washes the buildup of oil and rubber off the road surface. When it hasn't rained in such a long time, a little bit of rain can make the roads as slippery as black ice.

I learned the hard way once just how slippery a little water can be out here. Fortunately, I did hit anybody when I did my 360.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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Literally 5 miles from where I used to live (Golden Valley exit off 14)

Very close to the overpass that collapsed in the '94 Northridge quake.

Thoughts to those who lost their lives and their families....sucks for all.
 
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Just a few days later zero visibility dust storms north of there in Lancaster and Tehachapi caused many accidents and resulted in the closures of SR 14 and SR 58. People outside of CA think we always have mild weather and only an occasional earthquake or brush fire.

Jim
 
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