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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Hypertech Hyperpack?

Hypertech Hyperpack? anybody have or know anything about them?
 
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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most people here will recommend and try and convince you to run the sct xcal2. Can you get the hypertech for cheap? Why are you leaning towards the hypertech?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 02:00 AM
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just curiousity
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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i know enough about them to know they are a waste of money. There is a reason we preach SCT.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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Our shop carries the HyperPAC, you can find some more info and customer reviews about it here: http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/performance-chips/61A2737A0A0.aspx?from_search=1


A lot of people are really happy with the SCT like doubledee715 and lvtitan said. You can find some more info about them here: http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/performance-chips/20A50722A1.aspx
 
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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so, does anyone actually have one?
 
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Hyperpac

I have the Hyperpac and I think it is awesome. I really get tired of people who put down different products (Hypertech for some reason gets put down a lot). Most products out there are good but made for different buying needs.

What I can tell you is the Hyperpac will add significant power. I have only used Stage 1 and 2 so far and I am very impressed with the power gains. My neighbour got the Hypertech Programmer III and really liked what it did to his 7.3 PSD (woke up his truck and he claims to get better mileage).

After researching different options I decided on the Hyperpac for a couple of different reasons; the power curve and torque curve are developed with EGT's in mind. Hypertech claims they set them up so that EGT's stay below 1350 degrees. Apparently they simulate maximum towing load, for each vehicle, on a 5 degree grade and then test each vehicle for 10 minutes to make sure it stays below the 1350 degrees. Not sure if that is adequate but at least they look at it. I also like the fact you can get a lot of engine feedback with the Hyperpac engine monitor. I plan to see exactly what the different stages do (Stage 1, 2 and 3) by recording the readings and comparing the results during like conditions. I will likely do this when towing and not towing. I wish I had an EGT guage but I don't have one yet. I think the Hyperpac EGT guage is a "lot" overpriced so I may opt for an aftermarket one.

I plan on using the Hyperpac to help when towing. My previous vehicle went through two transmissions so I am very cautious about what I use. I think the Hyperpac is a conservative power option that still generates significant power gains. It is funny to watch the reaction of people when you tear off the line from a stop light (although that is not why I got it). It is very impressive even at Stage 2. If you just want maximum power gains there are probably other very good options as suggested by others who have posted. If you want a very well designed system that gives you some great feedback and power, the Hyperpac is an excellent option.

As a side note, I had issues with the Hyperpac out of the box. For some reason it would not Power Program my 03 6.0 PSD. I contacted Hypertech (Jim) and he sent a SD card that updated my Hyperpac and it now works (Ford had done a programming update that was not included in my Hyperpac). The service they provided was excellent. They even air freighted the SD card to Canada so I would get it right away.

In summary, so far so good and I am impressed with both the product and service. Of couse this is just my opinion.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceage2000
I have the Hyperpac and I think it is awesome. I really get tired of people who put down different products (Hypertech for some reason gets put down a lot). Most products out there are good but made for different buying needs.

What I can tell you is the Hyperpac will add significant power. I have only used Stage 1 and 2 so far and I am very impressed with the power gains. My neighbour got the Hypertech Programmer III and really liked what it did to his 7.3 PSD (woke up his truck and he claims to get better mileage).

After researching different options I decided on the Hyperpac for a couple of different reasons; the power curve and torque curve are developed with EGT's in mind. Hypertech claims they set them up so that EGT's stay below 1350 degrees. Apparently they simulate maximum towing load, for each vehicle, on a 5 degree grade and then test each vehicle for 10 minutes to make sure it stays below the 1350 degrees. Not sure if that is adequate but at least they look at it. I also like the fact you can get a lot of engine feedback with the Hyperpac engine monitor. I plan to see exactly what the different stages do (Stage 1, 2 and 3) by recording the readings and comparing the results during like conditions. I will likely do this when towing and not towing. I wish I had an EGT guage but I don't have one yet. I think the Hyperpac EGT guage is a "lot" overpriced so I may opt for an aftermarket one.

I plan on using the Hyperpac to help when towing. My previous vehicle went through two transmissions so I am very cautious about what I use. I think the Hyperpac is a conservative power option that still generates significant power gains. It is funny to watch the reaction of people when you tear off the line from a stop light (although that is not why I got it). It is very impressive even at Stage 2. If you just want maximum power gains there are probably other very good options as suggested by others who have posted. If you want a very well designed system that gives you some great feedback and power, the Hyperpac is an excellent option.

As a side note, I had issues with the Hyperpac out of the box. For some reason it would not Power Program my 03 6.0 PSD. I contacted Hypertech (Jim) and he sent a SD card that updated my Hyperpac and it now works (Ford had done a programming update that was not included in my Hyperpac). The service they provided was excellent. They even air freighted the SD card to Canada so I would get it right away.

In summary, so far so good and I am impressed with both the product and service. Of couse this is just my opinion.
Hypertech has had an extremely poor reputation when used with the 6.0 & Torqueshift, how the "New" Hyperpac pans out only time will tell as you test it in the field. Past experience with other Hypertech products and the 6.0 & Torqueshift has not been good. There is more to proper performance tuning than EGT, Mean & Peak cylinder pressures are much more important for longevity of the engine, and the transmission program must be changed to compensate for the increase Hp & Torque.

Through the years of many FTE members running all the chips & tuners available for the 6.0 & Torqueshift, the SCT XcalII/III with custom tunes has risen to the top, as it is head and shoulders above anything on the market. The SCT is the only unit that is currently available with a working custom tune ability. Matt at Spartan Diesel and Eric at Innovative are two of the top, if not the top custom tune writers for the SCT and the 6.0 & Torqueshift.

The SCT XcalIII can be purchase with lifetime custom tunes for $450 and if you want the Livewire (includes gauges like the Hyperpac) with lifetime custom tunes it is $645 w/o EGT and $825 with EGT.

Iceage2000, i wish you the best of luck with your choice, just be aware that Hypertech has not produced good results in the past with the 6.0 & Torqueshift. Note the 7.3 & 6.0 require completely different tuning paths, what worked successfully on the 7.3 quickly trashed the 6.0. Also running a modified 6.0 without an EGT gauge is not a wise proposition, for engine longevity.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Hypertech has had an extremely poor reputation when used with the 6.0 & Torqueshift, how the "New" Hyperpac pans out only time will tell as you test it in the field. Past experience with other Hypertech products and the 6.0 & Torqueshift has not been good. There is more to proper performance tuning than EGT, Mean & Peak cylinder pressures are much more important for longevity of the engine, and the transmission program must be changed to compensate for the increase Hp & Torque.

Through the years of many FTE members running all the chips & tuners available for the 6.0 & Torqueshift, the SCT XcalII/III with custom tunes has risen to the top, as it is head and shoulders above anything on the market. The SCT is the only unit that is currently available with a working custom tune ability. Matt at Spartan Diesel and Eric at Innovative are two of the top, if not the top custom tune writers for the SCT and the 6.0 & Torqueshift.

The SCT XcalIII can be purchase with lifetime custom tunes for $450 and if you want the Livewire (includes gauges like the Hyperpac) with lifetime custom tunes it is $645 w/o EGT and $825 with EGT.

Iceage2000, i wish you the best of luck with your choice, just be aware that Hypertech has not produced good results in the past with the 6.0 & Torqueshift. Note the 7.3 & 6.0 require completely different tuning paths, what worked successfully on the 7.3 quickly trashed the 6.0. Also running a modified 6.0 without an EGT gauge is not a wise proposition, for engine longevity.
I'm still trying to make up my mind which to buy. Hypertech claims there product is not detectable by Ford and I know that SCT is from the forums. To me the hyperpac is attractive cause it isn't detectable and at least one forum member that bought both sent the sct back because he got much better economy with the hyperteck. He also said the SCT was much more fun to drive with and only used it with out of the box tunes.
So, which should I but?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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I'm still trying to make up my mind which to buy. Hypertech claims there product is not detectable by Ford and I know that SCT is from the forums. To me the hyperpac is attractive cause it isn't detectable and at least one forum member that bought both sent the sct back because he got much better economy with the hyperteck. He also said the SCT was much more fun to drive with and only used it with out of the box tunes.
So, which should I but?
Use the search function and read up on both the Hyperpac & SCT with custom tunes. As far as the Hyperpac not being detectable, that is a joke and flat misrepresentation, as a good qualified 6.0 tech can determine its use. There is a reason the SCT with custom tunes has risen to the top for tuning the 6.0 safely and effectively. Ultimately it is your money, truck and choice, and if you want to go with "one" members recommendation for the Hyperpac over the SCT, choose the one that makes you happy.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceage2000
I have the Hyperpac and I think it is awesome. I really get tired of people who put down different products (Hypertech for some reason gets put down a lot). Most products out there are good but made for different buying needs.

What I can tell you is the Hyperpac will add significant power. I have only used Stage 1 and 2 so far and I am very impressed with the power gains. My neighbour got the Hypertech Programmer III and really liked what it did to his 7.3 PSD (woke up his truck and he claims to get better mileage).

After researching different options I decided on the Hyperpac for a couple of different reasons; the power curve and torque curve are developed with EGT's in mind. Hypertech claims they set them up so that EGT's stay below 1350 degrees. Apparently they simulate maximum towing load, for each vehicle, on a 5 degree grade and then test each vehicle for 10 minutes to make sure it stays below the 1350 degrees. Not sure if that is adequate but at least they look at it. I also like the fact you can get a lot of engine feedback with the Hyperpac engine monitor. I plan to see exactly what the different stages do (Stage 1, 2 and 3) by recording the readings and comparing the results during like conditions. I will likely do this when towing and not towing. I wish I had an EGT guage but I don't have one yet. I think the Hyperpac EGT guage is a "lot" overpriced so I may opt for an aftermarket one.

I plan on using the Hyperpac to help when towing. My previous vehicle went through two transmissions so I am very cautious about what I use. I think the Hyperpac is a conservative power option that still generates significant power gains. It is funny to watch the reaction of people when you tear off the line from a stop light (although that is not why I got it). It is very impressive even at Stage 2. If you just want maximum power gains there are probably other very good options as suggested by others who have posted. If you want a very well designed system that gives you some great feedback and power, the Hyperpac is an excellent option.

As a side note, I had issues with the Hyperpac out of the box. For some reason it would not Power Program my 03 6.0 PSD. I contacted Hypertech (Jim) and he sent a SD card that updated my Hyperpac and it now works (Ford had done a programming update that was not included in my Hyperpac). The service they provided was excellent. They even air freighted the SD card to Canada so I would get it right away.

In summary, so far so good and I am impressed with both the product and service. Of couse this is just my opinion.
we put them down because they cost people money and they dont give the same results that the SCT will..

you said yourself you are worried about tranny damage, then GET AN SCT it will increase line pressure and is designed to program the TCM as well as the PCM for PERFECT SHIFTING EVEN WHEN TOWING W/OUT DAMAGE TO THE TRANNY.. no one else is doing this !! !!
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Use the search function and read up on both the Hyperpac & SCT with custom tunes. As far as the Hyperpac not being detectable, that is a joke and flat misrepresentation, as a good qualified 6.0 tech can determine its use. There is a reason the SCT with custom tunes has risen to the top for tuning the 6.0 safely and effectively. Ultimately it is your money, truck and choice, and if you want to go with "one" members recommendation for the Hyperpac over the SCT, choose the one that makes you happy.
There are more than one that perferr hypertech but I am scepticle because of the popularity of the sct. Why would so many go for it if it wasn't the better
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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My 04 F250 has a hypertech 41042 tuner on it. It does ok but I'll get a SCT from Matt with custom tunes when I can afford it.SCT is the best Ford tuning on the market IMHO
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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the only people who "prefer" hyperpak to SCT are the people who already have a hyperpak and have NOT used an sct yet...

no one who has tried both of them would choose anything else over an SCT if they had the chance to try both of them out in a real test... there's just no comparison.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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There are more than one that perferr hypertech but I am scepticle because of the popularity of the sct. Why would so many go for it if it wasn't the better
IMO the only tuner to install on the 6.0 is the SCT Xcall with custom tunes from Matt at Spratan or Eric at Innovative. I prefer Matt's tunes but Eric does a good job as well. Talk to them both and see who you are most comfortable with.
 
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