I heard some guys were looking for a aftermarket intake manifold for there 5.0's and I found this on SummitRacing

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Hope I helped someone out.

 

Nice......and ONLY $556 bucks!!!.............

I'm keeping mine

Good job finding it for those that want it.

Bob

 

I have been building 302 mustangs and MarkVII's for years, and now I own my first F150 with a 302. All i have to say is WOW, what a huge hunk of intake system the trucks have!

I am almost tempted to slap a STOCK mustang intake system on this thing just to make under the hood look SIMPLE!

 

Yeah, those edlebrock's are tall....


long runners = low end torque

And putting a mustang intake on the truck would be an unwise modification. It has short runners for higher RPM power and does not mix well with truck parts.

 

I figured that one out all on my own. I feel special. HAHAHA. But I helped someone.

 

I put a stock 94-95 Mustang intake on my truck. The low end didn't really suffer, but the gain in mid to upper is pretty sweet. 5.0's don't make their power till mid rpm anyways. Why not use an intake that enhances this area? My truck is listed with its mods in my sig. I put the intake on before any of the exhaust or ignition stuff. I'm going to look for an after market Mustang intake now.

However, I do not have an EGR system anymore. That would be the hardest part about swapping the intakes. Otherwise just use the mustang pvc hose, re-route a couple vacuum lines, and find a way to hook your throttle cable up.

 

Put a spacer in between the upper and lower and you might be better off.

The 5.0s are terrible down low and Ford used that truck intake to help with the low end. Check out this month's fast ford and muscle mustang magazine...they did an article on this subject.


You probably couldn't feel what you did down low but you probably lost a little down low and gained a little up top. That is typcially what we don't want in a truck...


Personally, I hate the 5.0 in a truck. The 5.8 is much better.

 

I put the intake to intake spacer on my 88' f-150, I felt no change. I have done a lot of mods with no real change in power. What i have learned is that before you do anything make sure your mods will complement each other not hinder each other. have a plan and reserach it.

 

I am of the opinion that the car intake is actually a much better match to the 5.0 than the truck intake, regardless what vehicle it is in. There's not much difference in runner length, but the smaller cross section of the car intake should produce more torque. Dyno data would seem to support this, stock 5.0HO motors will produce a broad TQ curve from 2000rpm up peaking at 280-290lb/ft, while the stock F4TE truck motor only hits 270lb/ft. Peak TQ occurs at the 3000rpm for both motors.

 

interesting.....


I've pondered that since there are so many Crown Vic/ Grand Marq/ Town Car in the junkyard. It exits on teh correct side (drivers) and can use a e-bay Mustang CAI unit for it.

 

If you take the two motors we're generally talking about....a 5.0L HO mustang engine and the 302 non-HO truck engine...here are the differences and similarities...


Other than pistons, both engines have the same rotating assembly, block, and heads. The cam, intake, and exhaust are different. The firing order is also different.

The truck 5.0 makes 205hp/270ft-lbs while the mustang engine makes 225hp/300ft-lbs. The truck motor does have a tq peak at 3000 rpm and a hp peak at 4000 rpm, but the mustang's engine is higher and is not at 3000 rpm.

They are also under-rated as I've seen stock 5.0HO's make 250-270hp and 320-330 ft-lbs on an engine dyno.


The mustang intake does have significantly shorter intake runners. It may not appear that way but the overall difference is significant. It also uses a single throttle body vs the truck's dual throttle body. Every component on the truck engine is geared towards making lower end tq and horsepower. Yes the mustang intake does make more torque overall but it makes it higher in the RPM band which is what you want in a mustang and don't want in a truck.

The edlebrock truck intake has even longer intake runners and are designed to improve low end torque.

Another interesting fact is that the truck engines only spin to about 5000 rpm (redline of 5500) while the mustangs spin to 6000+ (redline of 6250).

In short, if you put a stock mustang intake on a truck 5.0 you will be creating a mismatch in engine components. It's not going to really screw anything up but trust me you are not improving anything by using a factory mustang intake on these truck engines. The edlebrock intake on the other hand...would be an improvement because it would work cohesively with the other components.

For more information I suggest you pick up a copy of this month's muscle mustang and fast ford magazine.


The reason I suggested an intake spacer (the ones that go inbetween the upper intake and lower intake manifolds, not at the TB) is because it increases the runner length.

There are lots and lots of articles and research that has been done regarding how runner length affects performance, the information is out there for the taking.

 

The Edelbrock setup is only a good choice in my opinion if you have the heads to go along with it. I don't think I would purchase it just for the fun of it. I found the stock lower intake does not match up to aftermarket heads as well as this Edelbrock setup. I have the Turbo Swirl GT-40 heads and the stock lower intake just didn't work very. I had a heck of a time getting it to seal and it only lasted a couple months. I ended up installing the Edelbock and everything sealed perfect! I was very pleased when I received it, really nice part. The Edelbrock not only has longer runners but they are giant. I have a picture here of the Edelbrock gasket on the stock intake to compare the size difference here:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2559636/5

You can see the Edelbrock ports are much larger. The Edelbrock also allows better access to the passenger valve cover and injectors, not that you really ever need in there, but it is nice to have the room. You can also see how smooth the stock intake is inside "NOT". Now all I need is the throttle body!

 

Well, I see your point MustangGT. If you want the truck for hauling, a truck intake would be a better choice. I also forgot about the older truck engines having a different fireing order. I've only ever worked with a '94 w/ MAF, a '95 w/ SD, and a crate H.O.. All of them had the H.O. firing order and the '94 I did the most on had the higher red line. I don't haul a lot, but I like the power in the mid-range where the engine is at most. Off the line isn't as important to me. I do more little things to increase overall performance. My trucks cruise better, and are faster, with a Mustang intake on them. I lost a little off the line, but did more than make-up for it in the mid and upper rpm range.

However, I'm actually now looking for a better intake choice. I want one with a slightly lower peak rpm range. Maybe an Explorer intake?

 

Im going to have to take Conaski's side on this one. Though it is true that the truck intake has longer runners, The cross section of those Runners is HUGE and low RPM velocity suffers- regardless of runner length. This is Echoed by the facts that before there was the cobra, GT40 and Explorer and other aftermarket intakes, the truck intake was THE upgrade for mustang 5.0 guys and the fact that Holley based their systemax2 lower intake on the truck lower.

Though I only partially agree that the HO intake is a better intake for the truck setup, I think that the 5.8 upper is a far better candidate. It physically bolts on in the same location, but it also has a far smaller runner cross section while retaining the runner length and dual plane design. The only problem with that setup is that the ports (oval) dont match the 5.0 lower (rectangle), but I am under the assumption that the mismatch wouldnt make much of a difference in power, as your going from smaller to bigger.

The F4TE cam isnt that far off from the HO specs, It has 20* less adv duration and a few thousanths less lift while having the same lope sep and whatnot. The HO isnt that much higher of an RPM cam than the F4TE.

 

The gasket mismatch you are showing is the opposite, I can tell from your other pictures and by the gasket. The stock gasket is larger than the edelbrock lower, this just shows how obscenely big the truck manifold ports are.