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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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Ok, that sounds good. First let me get a D60 and rebuild/regear/lock it and install it before I go out there so I don't grenade my D44, and I'll drive my bronco right after I pick the 203 up with my pinky and throw it in the bed.

I don't remember where greyrock is either. I know it's WAY to far for me to go, plus my bronco isn't set up like yours, so there's no way it'd last on the rocks.

If you come meet me at state capital race way or duhon's mud hole, I'll gladly bring it to you.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 75F350
Removing the front driveshaft on a "Full Time" NP 203 makes no sense.
thats exactly right. the differential in the 203 is exactly like that as a limited slip in an axle. you pull an axle shaft and the truck wont move. removing the driveshaft from either the front or rear of a full time case will do nothing good for you.

GrayRock is in Mt Olive, AL.
http://www.grayrockorv.com/
http://www.grayrockorv.com/directions.htm

-cutts-
 
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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damn....i was hoping maybe georgia or somthing like that....jus to far away for me....lame!
 
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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. my dodge is full time and removing the shaft does help, it always drove the front and hopped on turns. if you have on you'll know this. its drives me nuts. so i disconnect front and put in loc. no big deal. now i put chevy 3/4 ton axles and have lock outs now. just need to get rid of this damn 203.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by polky
. my dodge is full time and removing the shaft does help, it always drove the front and hopped on turns. if you have on you'll know this. its drives me nuts. so i disconnect front and put in loc. no big deal. now i put chevy 3/4 ton axles and have lock outs now. just need to get rid of this damn 203.

I have run several 203 cases over the years. If you had one that worked, you would know that the "HOP" only means that the center diff is not working. This is probaly because you have been driving it in the "LOC" position for long periods of time.
Here is a small section of an article that describes this exact thing. The 203 case is actually not that bad, unless it gets miss-used. Common failures are running the case without a part time conversion, and removing the front driveshaft (engaging the LOC position for long intervals), wrong fluid (too thick, gear oil is not good in a 203), and failure to engage 4wd, or lock the hubs occasionally after a part time conversion has been done.

Many of you with 203s are running around without a front driveshaft and with the shifter in Hi-Loc since that’s the free method of overriding the full-time 4x4 feature. But after a while you’ll probably notice a clunk emanating from the case. Whether your rig is a Dodge, a Chevy, or a Ford, the NP203 will develop internal wear when subjected to this type of use. Minimal driving isn’t a problem, but continual driving in the Hi-Loc position without the front shaft installed causes the internal coupler on the differential to develop a lot of slop, eventually causing a banging noise and then destruction.

the link for the entire article;

http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/howto/47538/
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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i been driving 4 years with my front driveshaft out and no problems. knock on wood, but i not sure if a 205 will bolt up to my 435 trans? ANYONE know?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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IT will bolt up...............................

It won't be a direct swap however. You will need new driveshafts, shift linkages, shifter, brackets, and possibly have to do other things. There's nothing fun about it.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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thats minor stuff. bolt pattern is all that matters.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by polky
thats minor stuff. bolt pattern is all that matters.
i have 2 NP435's with 205's bolted to them of differing years. they will bolt together. in fact ford was very good about that... most all fords tranny/t-case combos will interchange due to the 6-bolt bolt pattern. everything else gets dicey (output shaft, d-shafts, ****er linkages, etc)

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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by polky
thats minor stuff. bolt pattern is all that matters.
MINOR STUFF!
It is far from minor. Swapping the t case is the easy part.
I swapped my 203 for a 205, and I've been trying to get things right for about a year now, and still don't have it like it should be.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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after putting on a straight axle on a 95 f-150, anything is easy.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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I'd rather do that, then all the things I've done trying to get my 205 in place.
 
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