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My new truck is due in soon, it has been a 7 week wait so far and from what I can tell it is already built it is just waiting for delivery(do I hear road trip?) Anyway my question is I want to get a tuner for the truck just for the transmission shift quality. What does the tuner actually do to make the trans shift differently? Is a shift kit better in the long run? A shift kit is way harder to do because to do it right you should drop the trans to install it. If I understand it correctly a tuner increases line pressure but what does that do to other parts of the trans?
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Originally Posted by dualwheels66
Is a shift kit better in the long run? A shift kit is way harder to do because to do it right you should drop the trans to install it. If I understand it correctly a tuner increases line pressure but what does that do to other parts of the trans?
NOTE: Keep in mind that FORD is really cracking down on tuners and and any mods to the '08 SD. So...if loosing your warranty is worth the mods...then go for it. If not, then think twice...
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Planning to screw with a near perfect 5R100w trans without even seeing how it behaves for your driving style and habits is a bit pessimistic in my opinion
biz4two has a 4R100 and that particular trany can be made a little better with some modifications.... but I bet even he would admit a proper modification would be for his trany to go to a professional re-builder and be done correctly with the right combination of parts... upping the line pressure on a slush box with inferior internals is asking for problems... ( been the done that, got the "T" shirt and the repair bill from BTS for a properly built 4R100)
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Break your new truck in.... tow, haul, and whoop butt stop light to stop light...come back here in 3 months and tell us how you saved a ton of cash by NOT screwing with the best auto trany every put under a SuperDuty truck....
biz4two has a 4R100 and that particular trany can be made a little better with some modifications.... but I bet even he would admit a proper modification would be for his trany to go to a professional re-builder and be done correctly with the right combination of parts... upping the line pressure on a slush box with inferior internals is asking for problems... ( been the done that, got the "T" shirt and the repair bill from BTS for a properly built 4R100)
Duallwheels66
Break your new truck in.... tow, haul, and whoop butt stop light to stop light...come back here in 3 months and tell us how you saved a ton of cash by NOT screwing with the best auto trany every put under a SuperDuty truck....
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Originally Posted by biz4two
IMO...YES...a shift kit is better in the long run. OBTW: You do NOT need to drop the tranny. Just drain and drop the tranny pan...and remove the filter. The valve body is right there...and is a pretty easy swap.
NOTE: Keep in mind that FORD is really cracking down on tuners and and any mods to the '08 SD. So...if loosing your warranty is worth the mods...then go for it. If not, then think twice...
biz
NOTE: Keep in mind that FORD is really cracking down on tuners and and any mods to the '08 SD. So...if loosing your warranty is worth the mods...then go for it. If not, then think twice...
biz
Run the truck.
If you want to tweak it some day to your liking, wait until the warrenty expires.
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Oh, don't worry I plan on breaking in the truck before I do anything to it. I will just get the 3 year warranty and then I will do my mods when the 36,000 miles are up.
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Originally Posted by dualwheels66
Oh, don't worry I plan on breaking in the truck before I do anything to it. I will just get the 3 year warranty and then I will do my mods when the 36,000 miles are up.
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dualwheels66
I bet you come back after several trips up and over the mountains with a serious load on and start telling new members there is no need to spend money any where on the 2005 and up 3v V10~ 5R110w powertrain...
I bet you come back after several trips up and over the mountains with a serious load on and start telling new members there is no need to spend money any where on the 2005 and up 3v V10~ 5R110w powertrain...
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I bet you that before my warranty is up there is a supercharger, dual exhaust, cold air intake, and a tuner on it, no matter what anyone says. I think any truck can be improved upon. It seems to me that these trucks run forever so who needs a warranty?
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i got the SC max tuner, but I don't use it anymore. two construction owners I know have nad problems with trannies buring up. may or maynot be because of the tuner, hwho knows, but the ****hing is faster with the tuner. as for performance inhancement.....not there. i changed the air intake....(stans ford page) and switched my 3.73 gears to 4.30's.....very happy with that mod.
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Agree!
Originally Posted by Fredvon4
biz4two has a 4R100 and that particular trany can be made a little better with some modifications.... but I bet even he would admit a proper modification would be for his trany to go to a professional re-builder and be done correctly with the right combination of parts... upping the line pressure on a slush box with inferior internals is asking for problems.
Originally Posted by dkf
If Ford has a problem with tuners, I can guarentee they would have a major problem with doing any modifications to the tranny such as a valve body mod. I'm sure they would void any remaining warrenty in a heart beat.
Wow...I must be in a good mood to keep agreeing...
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Originally Posted by dualwheels66
I bet you that before my warranty is up there is a supercharger, dual exhaust, cold air intake, and a tuner on it, no matter what anyone says. I think any truck can be improved upon. It seems to me that these trucks run forever so who needs a warranty?
Dual exhaust = flutter
cold air intake = noise
Tuner = unknown
Keep in mind…that this is not a V8. The V10 3v is a very unique TRUCK engine…and in stock form is just about perfect. Several FTE folks tried to make the V10 3v better…and spent thousands doing so. They actually went back to stock OEM, because the gains were so far in the upper RPM range it did not help with towing or moving a payload.
But you are right...heck it is your SD V10 3v...so mod away.
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Originally Posted by dualwheels66
I bet you that before my warranty is up there is a supercharger, dual exhaust, cold air intake, and a tuner on it, no matter what anyone says. I think any truck can be improved upon. It seems to me that these trucks run forever so who needs a warranty?
Originally Posted by wfof250v10
two construction owners I know have nad problems with trannies ...
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says "I bet you that before my warranty is up there is a supercharger, dual exhaust, cold air intake, and a tuner on it, no matter what anyone says. I think any truck can be improved upon. It seems to me that these trucks run forever so who needs a warranty?"
OK brother... I will take that bet, and bet you a case of Kostritzer Schwartz Bier that your 3v V10 NEVER has a supercharger on it!
It already has factory headers and a damned good dual exhaust down to the GIANT assed piping out to a GIANT Muffler...all you can possibly do is screw up the already near perfect balance of the intake and exhaust flow...ALL you will do to the exhaust is slip on a FlowMaster (or similar) for a deeper noisier tone
You want to mod this motor? ----Better get into the college fund and 401K and plan on $10,000 or more in R&D for internals..... FoMoCo designed this motor as a 275HP power plant in 1995 and they already modified the hell out of her to get to 362HP....Hint brother...they already found all 75 extra ponies that were hidden inside (read up on how the Variable Volume Plenum works)
BUT---- like NoMo and other say...get after it!
I recommend that afore ya doo.... Search this forum for all words of wisdom from CaptChas, Level10, and Fredvon4 on the subject.... we are 4 years ahead of you in the learning curve....
BTW in your bet above you don't say what you "bet"....??
says "I bet you that before my warranty is up there is a supercharger, dual exhaust, cold air intake, and a tuner on it, no matter what anyone says. I think any truck can be improved upon. It seems to me that these trucks run forever so who needs a warranty?"
OK brother... I will take that bet, and bet you a case of Kostritzer Schwartz Bier that your 3v V10 NEVER has a supercharger on it!
It already has factory headers and a damned good dual exhaust down to the GIANT assed piping out to a GIANT Muffler...all you can possibly do is screw up the already near perfect balance of the intake and exhaust flow...ALL you will do to the exhaust is slip on a FlowMaster (or similar) for a deeper noisier tone
You want to mod this motor? ----Better get into the college fund and 401K and plan on $10,000 or more in R&D for internals..... FoMoCo designed this motor as a 275HP power plant in 1995 and they already modified the hell out of her to get to 362HP....Hint brother...they already found all 75 extra ponies that were hidden inside (read up on how the Variable Volume Plenum works)
BUT---- like NoMo and other say...get after it!
I recommend that afore ya doo.... Search this forum for all words of wisdom from CaptChas, Level10, and Fredvon4 on the subject.... we are 4 years ahead of you in the learning curve....
BTW in your bet above you don't say what you "bet"....??