Hopefully someone can give me a suggestion before I take my truck in on Monday...I just finished a trip from GA to TX and back. Truck was unloaded except for hunting gear. sorry for the long post...it's been a while.

First problem occurred a week ago after I got to TX. No problems during the drive, but the next morning after driving through the neighborhood (2 minutes) I had no power. Truck hesitated for maybe 2 seconds and then took off as I gave it more fuel. Not too big of a deal, but the second problem sucked.

Second problem occurred on the way home (middle of nowhere Mississippi). I'd been driving for about 500 miles and was making my second stop. I parked the truck to walk the dog and get some food. When I got ready to get back on the road, the truck would crank, but wouldn't start. The only thing I noticed under the hood was that Ford was kind enough to re-connect my EGR at my last oil change. It sounded like the truck wasn't getting any fuel. After an hour, I tried one more time and got it started. I had to push the throttle hard to finally get it going. Everything ran fine from there. No power issues, no major smoke, idle was fine. I've got 72K on the truck. Any ideas before I go to the dealer?? Thanks.

 

My first guess would be that it sounds suspiciously like the HPOP fitting issue. Take it in quick as the problem will not improve over time.

 

As 04Xcursion said problems with the Hpop system, there where problems with the fitting on the Hpop from the factory on 05 motors. The new replacement part has been updated and will fix the problem.

 

Could my problems above be cause by a clogged EGR??? I FINALLY got a call from the dealer this afternoon. The service rep said there was a bad EKG valve and my truck was fixed. Didn't know there was such a thing!! I'm assuming he meant EGR. I'll pick the truck up in the morning because I'm "testing" a 2008...no intention on buying, but the service dept wouldn't give me a loaner. Funny how a salesman will.

On another note, I'm totally dissatisfied with the service from River Town Ford in Columbus, GA. The service rep told me he would call and give me a status 3 different times over the last 2 days (following my calls) and not once did he do so. The only call I got was "your truck is fixed". I hope they really fixed the problem.

 

97TexasAggie,

Well an EGR valve can cause loss or power and hesitation, but i have never seen one cause a no start situation on a warm engine. Hopefully the tech pressure tested the Hpop system, cause if he didn't you will find the real problem soon enough.

 

most likely the snap fitting on the HPOP, what yr is your truck? as these are only a concern on 05-07.

 

The truck is an '05 with 72K miles. I even told the service rep that I thought it may be the HPOP (thanks to you guys). He was a total idiot. This is the first mechanical problem I've had, so I can't say anything about the tech.

 

a service writer is just that,to set appointments and dispatch the jods to us the techs, although we have two that our farly knowledgeable. But they should never try to diagnose a concenr over the phone or their counter, just get all the facts as best as the customer can describe them.

 

Had what sounds like the exact same problem with my '04, starting around 40,000 miles. At 55,000, after about 10 similiar episodes, two requiring towing to dealership, I finally ditched it for an '08. Two different dealers never could figure out what the problem really was. If it keeps it up, and no fixes occur from the dealer, I would consider moving on to something else.

 

Well, I guess the new "EKG Valve" wasn't the fix. Same thing happend today, but not quite as bad as the first episode on my trip back from Texas. Truck was hot, had sat for 10-15 minutes and wouldn't start. I'm calling the dealer tomorrow morning, demanding a loaner vehicle, and fully expect that I won't have to pay another $100 deductible.

I have no concerns about the overall reliability of my truck, fully understand things break, and understand that sometimes it's hard to duplicate a problem at the shop...however, I've had 3 different people give the same answer (HPOP) on a vehicle they haven't seen in person and I'm confident that that is the problem. We'll see how helpful the dealer is this time.

 

Definitely classic symptoms of a Hpop problem, most likely the snap connector fitting. If this dealer gives you a hassle find a different dealer with a qualified 6.0 tech.

Here is the TSB on the problem, print it out and hand it to them.
http://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/fullt...hp?tsb=06-17-6

 

Well I took my truck back in last week and after checking it out, the tech determined the problem to be from an air leak somewhere. Ford had him perform a "soak" test which led to that diagnosis....what's a soak test?

The problem now is apparently finding this small leak. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Does this sound like a likely problem? Hopefully I'll have my truck back soon.

 

YES, a leak in the HPO system will cause a no start or long cranking to start, they will add shop air to the system and operate the IPR to see if the leak is controlled or broken right off at the fitting, if it is a small leak they will need to block off each head to check them induvidually and this will pinpoint the problem area and then once that is figured out they will have to tear down and inspect for leaking o-rings and a broken branch tube then make the repair..can be very time consuming.

 

18vtx00, thanks for the info. They mentioned that they were inspecting the branch tubes now. It does seem like this is a long process to find a small leak, but I'm pleased with the dealer and the tech. I appreciate everyone's help as this is WAY beyond my technical level....if it were a gun problem, I'd be much better off!!!

 

it will get fixed and most likely will never have this same issue again, we see alot of snap off fittings, but only one branch tube in the 2+years I have been at this dealership..