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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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Holley 600 questions...

I think I may know the answer to these questions but I'd like verification.

(1) Electric Choke Adjustment - Some carbs have a fast idle adjustment screw (like a quadrajet) but can't find one on my single inlet Holley 600. I assume the only choke adjustment is rich or lean by turning the cup where the power lead is attached. Is that correct? I keep turning it to the left to close off the choke more but the engine still dies when cold. If it has a fast idle adjustment, where is it?

(2) Vacuum Activated secondaries - I assume if I remove the vacuum hose that goes from the top of the carburetor just under the air cleaner that runs down to the bottom right rear side and plug that inlet that the secondaries will not open. Is that correct? I'm thinking of doing this to as an economy move. Has anyone else done this? Will it save me any gas?

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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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1) The fast idle screw is on the linkage under the choke linkage almost facing upside down. It is usually easier to access with the carb off.

2) No, the vacuum line that you speak of draws air thru the choke. You can not remove vacuum from the secondaries. It is drawn thru a hole in the primary side of the carb. You can get a spring kit from Holley and install the black spring. It is very stiff and will keep them closed most of the time, especially on a smaller cubic inch engine.
They probably don't open that much now unless you are really into the throttle hard.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 04:21 AM
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If you open the carb and hold it at full throttle with motor off the fast idle screw can be reached with a 1/4" box wrench for adjustment without pulling the carb. Both the choke and fast idle will take a couple cold morning starts and adjustments to get set properly.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LxMan1
1) The fast idle screw is on the linkage under the choke linkage almost facing upside down. It is usually easier to access with the carb off.

2) No, the vacuum line that you speak of draws air thru the choke. You can not remove vacuum from the secondaries. It is drawn thru a hole in the primary side of the carb. You can get a spring kit from Holley and install the black spring. It is very stiff and will keep them closed most of the time, especially on a smaller cubic inch engine.
They probably don't open that much now unless you are really into the throttle hard.
Thanks for the info gentlemen. What is the purpose of drawing vacuum through the choke? I have been running with that line blocked off and have not seen any difference in operation. I hardly ever get on it hard so I'll assume the secondaries are closed most of the time. First indications are that I'm only getting about 10 MPG on a 350/350. That could be inacurate as I'm still sorting out a speedometer issue. The 600 was rebuilt. Is there anything I can do to help mileage. I'm running a 2:26 rear gear so I should be getting almost twice that. I'm thinking about going to an Edelbrock if I can't improve mileage. I've heard they get better mileage. Any truth to it?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Favorite brand is like a Rambler Studebaker thing.
My choice is a Holley hands down, mileage difference
if any would be slight if none provided both brands were set up
and jetted for your particular motor.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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I have used both brands in different vehicles but really have no favorite. Whatever works best at the time is the brand I want but I can't live with 10 MPG so I'm looking to improve mileage any way I can. I'm not a carburetor guy so I'm not familiar with the process of changing jets. The jets in it now are supposed to be "stock" according to the rebuilder...whatever stock is. The engine is basically stock except for an RV cam.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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The choke draws air internally, the vacuum line hooks up so that the air being drawn into it from the choke is inside the air cleaner so that it is filtered by the air filter.
As far as jet size, I need the list number off of the choke horn to see what it came with. It should be on the front, righthand side.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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After working with Holley 1850's the last 30 years be it used or brand new plus rejetted I find the 670 SA comes up leaner on the cruise without the lean surge problems that 1850's would have if leaned down the same on the F/A ratio gauge. I believe Holley made improvements when they came out with the SA besides a slight mileage improvement.
 
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Originally Posted by LxMan1
The choke draws air internally, the vacuum line hooks up so that the air being drawn into it from the choke is inside the air cleaner so that it is filtered by the air filter.
As far as jet size, I need the list number off of the choke horn to see what it came with. It should be on the front, righthand side.
I'll hook the vacuum line back up and look for that number today. Thanks.
 
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blown power valves cause terrible gas milage too
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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blown power valves cause terrible gas milage too
I'm sure the power valve is okay. The carb only has a few hundred miles on it after being rebuilt and they supposedly used a newer blowout proof power valve. At least that's what I asked for...
 
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Originally Posted by LxMan1
The choke draws air internally, the vacuum line hooks up so that the air being drawn into it from the choke is inside the air cleaner so that it is filtered by the air filter.
As far as jet size, I need the list number off of the choke horn to see what it came with. It should be on the front, righthand side.
Hmmm, found no numbers on the front right hand side but did find some on the left. My old eyes aren't what they used to be so it was hard to read. The numbers on the left side were 80457 with 0853 underneath or else it was 60457 with 0653 underneath. I could not tell it it was a 6 or 8. There was also a number on the top left of the air horn of 11791 if that's any help. Exactly where is the choke horn? I was looking for any numbers I could find on the right side but saw nothing but patent numbers.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 04:52 AM
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80457 is the list number. I have one of these myself. It was on my 351W, then I swapped it to my 460 so if I ever sell the truck, I will have my Edelbrock 750 that I like better on my 351W. It came with 69 jets if there is no -1 or -2 after the 80457. It is has the -1 or -2 then it came with 64 jets.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 04:52 AM
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I would try dropping about 2 sizes and see how that works.
 
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Originally Posted by LxMan1
I would try dropping about 2 sizes and see how that works.
Okay thanks. I checked mileage again and found that my odometer is off 2 tenths of a mile. It's only showing .8 for every mile driven. Taking that into account I'm still getting only 13.4 MPG. So, you think dropping two jet sizes will help my mileage? What number jet do I ask for and is it easy enough for a carburetor idiot to install?
 
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