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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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Aditives 2 fuel

Hey does any one know on long island know if of any gas stations that use aditives in there fuel in the winter.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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For what? Anti Gel or lubricity?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Being in the northern climate you will soon be into winterblend fuel, antigel added from the rack before it gets to the station. that doesn't mean that you should not use an additional AG additive depending on how bad old man winter decides to hit you. lower MPG's with winterblend are in your future.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 03:22 AM
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up here in the white mountains the fuel has winter blend mixed in but we get much colder then other place as a rule and all satiations will add a little more to protect it better for our climet..we have a guy here that sells B 10 bio year round with no problems..how ever.. I add DK (white bottle) to every tank and change my fuel filter every 5000 miles in the winter..been driving diesels for over 15 years and only had one slight jelling problem and that was 50 below with out the wind chill factor...
 

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Thanks ron but what brand is DK. Can u use for gelling or lubrity.
 
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Powerservice makes DK. I'd use it as an anti-gelling thing if it gets below 0. Other than that, IMO, their lubricity stuff is snake oil.
 
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Thanks ron but what brand is DK. Can u use for gelling or lubrity.

DK is diesel klean..you can find it at any wall mart..there is 2 different bottles..white for lube and winter blend..keeps you from gelling..gray bottle lubes and adds a little more power for better fuel mileage kind of like octane boost for a gasser..no SOP power gains..
 
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Originally Posted by ron's power stoke
gray bottle lubes and adds a little more power for better fuel mileage kind of like octane boost for a gasser..no SOP power gains..
Didn't add anything for me when I put in the required amount. Nothing when I doubled it either.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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Makes a HUGE difference in the way ( DK grey bottle that is ) my early 99 runs. But I dont have to deal with gelling here in the southeast tho .
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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Makes a HUGE difference in the way ( DK grey bottle that is ) my early 99 runs.
What quantifiable results did you get? More power or torque? More mileage?
 
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I have use both biodiesel and DK.. I find biodiesel makes the engine run alot quieter.. see the study results https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...study-2-a.html .. biodiesel does the best job for lubing..
 

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Originally Posted by clintbonnie
I have use both biodiesel and DK.. I find biodiesel makes the engine run alot quieter..

see the study results https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...study-2-a.html .. biodiesel does the best job for lubing..
Quieter does not have much to do with the lubricity. All biodiesel has done may be to change the ignition characteristics. Whether that change results in anything hasn't been proven as yet. IMO, if you are after it being quieter, go with biodiesel. Whether it is really better or not, nobody has proven yet.l

What the study doesn't say is what is really the necessary amount of lubricity for our vehicles. IOW, quantifiable results from going from say 520 to 420 to 320 to 220. More is better to a point. Sometimes it may not matter. For instance, if it gives my injectors 200 miles more life, will it matter? What I want to see is them saying that the injector lasts X miles on average. As you move up the chart, you get better results to what point. There is a point of deminishing returns. What is that point, nobody has said yet.
 
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much quieter and 2.108 MPG more when towing my TT . And if your so sure about a diminishing point in lubricity , why did you add 2x the recommended amount of DK ? I try to stay at 24oz per 38 gallons .
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P.S. also the proof your asking for is going to be hard to come by . Each question seems to beget another question .
 
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Originally Posted by scottriddl
much quieter and 2.108 MPG more when towing my TT . And if your so sure about a diminishing point in lubricity , why did you add 2x the recommended amount of DK ? I try to stay at 24oz per 38 gallons .
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I'm not sure about the diminishing returns of increasing lubricity. I added more because I didn't see anything change from adding the prescribed amount. This was when I was on long trips which were mainly cruising so I could compare apples to apples. When it didn't work, I increased the dose by 50%. When I got nothing, I doubled it. This was done on several 1000 mile trips. After seeing nothing on doubling the dose, I continued to finish out what I had and then went back to straight D2. So, I don't know if it increased the cetane but my mileage didn't say so. Also, I fill till there is nothing more to fill by shaking the truck to burp it. Mileage is hand calculated and filters were good and tire pressure was adequate.
 
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