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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Odd Tire Question:

I went up and order some Wrangler Silent Armor tires today, 265/70/17. I was expecting the cost of each tire to cost $175 each, from their website listing, but he rung up $140 each so I went with it. I go home and check and see to see that their are actually two types:

The one he ordered:

$140
Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor
LT265/70R-17/C1 112R (31636)
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...d=008443&ar=70

And the one I was expecting:

$175
Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor
P265/70R-17 113T OWL (31624)
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...d=008443&ar=70

I understand he ordered the lt(Lighttruck), but why would the LT tire be cheaper than the P(Passenger) tire? And what passenger car would fit these tires??
 
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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There are actually 3 types of the tires, P-metric load range 2535
1- LT load range C- 2470
Another LT load range E- 3195 You can find out more about them on Goodyear web site, they also have Fortera Silent Armor I have some Goodyear coupons if you can use them.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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There are actually 3 types of the tires, P-metric load range 2535
1- LT load range C- 2470
Another LT load range E- 3195 You can find out more about them on Goodyear web site, they also have Fortera Silent Armor I have some Goodyear coupons if you can use them.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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Thanks for the site!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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The reason for price difference could simple be a sale from goodyear or where you purchased them from. Personally I would rather have the LT that you got.
The P metric designation does not mean they are designed strictly for cars. A lot or trucks are built with these. Usually a P metric will have a lower weight rating therefore it would ride a little softer and if you compared the two side by side you would find that the tread shoulder on the LT would be more square as opposed to the P.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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THE $175 TIRE IS A HEAVIER TIRE AND IT IS Out Line Whiteletter. THA IS THE EXTRA COST
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Wr3ckin_Cr3w
I understand he ordered the lt(Lighttruck), but why would the LT tire be cheaper than the P(Passenger) tire? And what passenger car would fit these tires??
Many of the F-150's come standard with the P rated tires.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Thanks for the input guys. So I guess going with the LT tire is the better choice? Since I moved the tire size from 235 to 265, he said The truck would be a inch higher, would that warrent a speedo recalibration? And would 265 wide tires stick out of the truck?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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My friend just told me I made a big mistake going from 235 wide tires to 265 because wider tires suck up more gas. I cant find anything on the net about this. Is this true?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Yeap, sucks more gas, more contact, more drag. But looks better.
Also the wider the tire the worse the traction in the winter time.. but doesnt look like that will be a issue with you..

correction on my part, 235 to 265.. your tire will be taller/not wider. But will still suck more gas..Also your speedo will be off.
 

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Oh damn, I was under the impression that the 265 was the width and the 70 was the height. Dang it, I gotta order a different set then.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 01:50 AM
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The 235 to 265 will be wider. Wider will use more gas but in addition to looking better it will ride better.

This is from tirerack.com:

Section Width

Following the letter(s) that identify the type of vehicle and/or type of service for which the tire was designed, the three-digit numeric portion identifies the tire's "Section Width" (cross section) in millimeters.

P225/50R16 91S

The 225 indicates this tire is 225 millimeters across from the widest point of its outer sidewall to the widest point of its inner sidewall when mounted and measured on a specified width wheel. This measurement is also referred to as the tire's section width. Because many people think of measurements in inches, the 225mm can be converted to inches by dividing the section width in millimeters by 25.4 (the number of millimeters per inch).

225mm / 25.4 = 8.86"

Sidewall Aspect Ratio

Typically following the three digits identifying the tire's Section Width in millimeters is a two-digit number that identifies the tire's profile or aspect ratio.

P225/50R16 91S

The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 / 25.4 = 8.86") and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43". If this tire were a P225/70R16 size, our calculation would confirm that the size would result in a section height of 6.20", approximately a 1.8-inch taller sidewall.

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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So would the hole for the rim be exactly 17" for a 17" rim? If it was, then it would be easy to figure out how tall the tire is.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Well I ended up with the 265/70/17 GoodYear Fortera TripleTred. The noise is noticeable, but I expected that.

The tire site:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Fortera%20Tr ipleTred

It looks like the tire is way too big for my 17' rims. The picture doesnt do it justice and I cant seem to load up a pic of the tire itself:


[img]http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7...t942007fq2.jpg[/img]
 
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