How Long ?
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Originally Posted by I6power
So some of you guys will go around looking at labels and refuse to buy products cause it says "made in china?" Or because its not manufactured in America.
Just curious.
Just curious.
clothes: Dickeys or carharts, made in America, the most unAmerican thing im wearing right now are my shirt (costa rica) and my shoes (Canada)
electronics: im in the market for a CB, the one ima get here soon is made in Texas
Vehicles: 1990 FORD. when it was new there was a japanese made part on it, the oil pump, which promptly failed at 70,000 miles and blew the engine, naturally, the new engine was installed with American made version.
I take this very seriously, i do everything i can to support our nations economy
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From: The Big, Oregon
Originally Posted by Mil1ion
That's Auto parts.
I am wondering why there has been any " I'm never buying things made in china anymore type replies.
That's what I talking about .. American's wanting to get their factories back and the worker
vs
Asian things and cheap labour for cheap goods.
Toys, tools. school supplies,etc,etc, etc
Where is the out cry ?
I am wondering why there has been any " I'm never buying things made in china anymore type replies.
That's what I talking about .. American's wanting to get their factories back and the worker
vs
Asian things and cheap labour for cheap goods.
Toys, tools. school supplies,etc,etc, etc
Where is the out cry ?
And the outcry was the cheering over the first container ships and ports, NAFTA, etc. Our government has gone to great lengths to tell us what's falling on us is rain when it clearly is not.
But hey, humanitarian groups can be happy to know we are helping out these poor impoverished countries.
So, while I watch container cranes made in China offloading more containers of crap made in China, I have to wonder what the final cost really is for this cheap stuff. I especially wonder when I am between jobs trying to figure out how I will feed my family and keep a roof over their heads.
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From: the beaches of florida
Originally Posted by Mil1ion
Due to recent recalls on toys and other things
How long until the consumers of North America stop wanting products made in China ?
How long until the consumers of North America stop wanting products made in China ?
Were too damn lazy. Im just as guilty as anyone else. I just dont think its that big of a deal. I havent noticed how its affected me at all. Until the day where everytime i buy something it breaks, im not gonna do anything about it. Probably 80% of the stuff in my house is made in china, i really have no idea nor do i care as long as it works. Call me what you want, but thats what i feel most of the US citizens are like. There are certain things about this country that i see need some work and need to be changed. However this is not one of them. There are much bigger issues at hand. Like what was that one thing? It was going on somewhere overseas? I forgot what it was cause, you know, paris hiltons been up to no good.
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From: SW Arizona
I am kinda reminded of reading "The Human Jungle" by Upton Sinclair who wrote about all the scams and cheap products produced by the Meat Industry at the beginning of the 20th Century. Milk that was largely chalk and water. Meat that was adulterated to the extreme and work conditions extraodinaire. As a Socialist, he hoped this would cause a revolution but what it caused were a clean up and stricter controls.
In 19th Century, there were alot of American products being sent over to Europe and it was "Caveate Emptor". Largely due to fast and furious cut throat capitalism by individuals and companies with very little oversight by the Federal government. If there were any, the rules were largely ignored them. "American products" were looked upon with much the same as the present Chinese products being withdrawn.
Might want to read this Boston Globe article: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ide...aws/?page=full
I am not saying it's a case of the kettle calling the pot black, we have come along ways from those times. But then, early industrial Britain and Russia after Glastnost/breakup in the 90s......
The Chinese government might like to present itself as a monolith, but the Chinese either ignore or get around any regs handed down by Beijing.
However, I agree to "buy American" or at least buy better products is best.
In 19th Century, there were alot of American products being sent over to Europe and it was "Caveate Emptor". Largely due to fast and furious cut throat capitalism by individuals and companies with very little oversight by the Federal government. If there were any, the rules were largely ignored them. "American products" were looked upon with much the same as the present Chinese products being withdrawn.
Might want to read this Boston Globe article: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ide...aws/?page=full
the sooner we can realize that China's fast and loose brand of commerce is not an expression of national character, much less a conspiracy to poison us and our pets, but a phase in the country's development. Call it adolescent capitalism, if you will: bursting with energy, exuberant, dynamic. Like any teenager, China's behavior is also maddening, irresponsible, and dangerous. But it is a phase, and understanding it that way gives us some much-needed perspective, as well as some tools for handling the problem. Indeed, if we want to understand how to deal with China, we could do worse than look to our own history as a guide.
The Chinese government might like to present itself as a monolith, but the Chinese either ignore or get around any regs handed down by Beijing.
At a certain point, some of the push for change can come from within. As a capitalist system evolves, there can come a time when some players in the economy prefer to be held to more stringent standards, even ones that impose additional costs......
Indeed, if the Chinese are truly following Deng Xiaoping's apocryphal maxim, "to get rich is glorious," then their own entrepreneurs and industries may eventually recognize that to get rich while bowing to international standards may be equally glorious -- and even more profitable.
Indeed, if the Chinese are truly following Deng Xiaoping's apocryphal maxim, "to get rich is glorious," then their own entrepreneurs and industries may eventually recognize that to get rich while bowing to international standards may be equally glorious -- and even more profitable.
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As a business owner I can tell you that American wages are not the only thing making American goods more expensive.
Government regulations in every aspect of business make producing goods in America more expensive. OSHA regulations, Banking/Finance rules controlling what who banks can loan money to only to create a governement agency to loan to those that they just made it impossible for banks to loan to. Environmental regulations, health department regulations taxes for everything from unemployment insurance to workers comp, to etc.
Government regulations in every aspect of business make producing goods in America more expensive. OSHA regulations, Banking/Finance rules controlling what who banks can loan money to only to create a governement agency to loan to those that they just made it impossible for banks to loan to. Environmental regulations, health department regulations taxes for everything from unemployment insurance to workers comp, to etc.
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I recently went shopping for work boots. I found a pair of Red Wings and a comperable pair of Carharts. The Red Wings were about $60 more than the Carharts. I asked the store owner why. He told me the the Red Wings were made in Minnisota, USA, the Carharts, assebled in China. I walked out with a brand new pair of Red Wings happily tucked under my arm. I couldn't find any toilet repair parts made in the USA, though.
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