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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Searched, posted and searched some more. The verdict is back on my truck. Hasn't started in about 2 weeks. Last week I was waitin on a guy who said he was gonna help me fix it but never came through..

Anyway, dealer says $1500 for new IPR and HPOP. Now 3 weeks ago they tested the pressure in the HPOP and said it was good. They said the IPC was giving irradic readings between 300 and 500 which means that the IPR could also be bad which would in tern cause the HPOP to not work properly.

Now the dealer is saying the HPOP is bad, only putting out 150 psi and should be 800 psi. When I asked about the IPR, they said they did not know if it was bad but recommended that it be changed " to be on the safe side".

Can anyone tell me their opinion on this. I have already replaced the ICP and CPS sensors. Will a bad IPR affect the HPOP pressure?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Beast01
Searched, posted and searched some more. The verdict is back on my truck. Hasn't started in about 2 weeks. Last week I was waitin on a guy who said he was gonna help me fix it but never came through..

Anyway, dealer says $1500 for new IPR and HPOP. Now 3 weeks ago they tested the pressure in the HPOP and said it was good. They said the IPC was giving irradic readings between 300 and 500 which means that the IPR could also be bad which would in tern cause the HPOP to not work properly.

Now the dealer is saying the HPOP is bad, only putting out 150 psi and should be 800 psi. When I asked about the IPR, they said they did not know if it was bad but recommended that it be changed " to be on the safe side".

Can anyone tell me their opinion on this. I have already replaced the ICP and CPS sensors. Will a bad IPR affect the HPOP pressure?
Anyone?? Also looking for a good place to buy an IPR and HPOP, please feel free to chime in with some recommendations....
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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I would gamble on the IPR first. Just change it out and see what happens. If you still need a HPOP, you will already have the IPR.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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I would gamble on the IPR first. Just change it out and see what happens. If you still need a HPOP, you will already have the IPR.
Well, I found a deal on a reman HPOP and IPR for 550. But I want to make sure that its not just the IPR thats bad. Will a bad IPR cause a false reading in the HPOP or cause it not to function properly?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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These HPOP's are pretty tough. Just don't hear of many failing. It does happen, just not much. My reading were all over the place when my IPR was failing. Granted I didn't do the reading nor was I there. The work was done by a trusted mech/friend of mine and he was leaning toward the HPOP for a while. Then after doing some more readings and test, decided to go with IPR first, Wah Lah no problems and engine never ran better.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Beast01
Will a bad IPR cause a false reading in the HPOP or cause it not to function properly?
It is the injection pressure regulator....if you have fluctuatng pressure it should be the second thing you check. Right after you confirm that the ICP sensor is giving accurate readings.

I would not buy another pump until I knew for certain that is was the problem. I bought a brand new IPR and an ICP off ebay for about $120 total.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cookie88
It is the injection pressure regulator....if you have fluctuatng pressure it should be the second thing you check. Right after you confirm that the ICP sensor is giving accurate readings.

I would not buy another pump until I knew for certain that is was the problem. I bought a brand new IPR and an ICP off ebay for about $120 total.
Were you having no start problems too?

The last time it didn't wanna start a mech I knew told me to unplug the EBV sensor, I did that and the truck started right up?!? Got it home and the next morning no start at all just cranks. Already put new CPS and ICP sensors in. Just found a IPR for 175 on ebay. Good deal or no??
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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No starting problems...I got them just to have in the tool box in case I need them.

I just posted because your first post seems a little fishy the way the dealer reversed themselves. The post reads like they know that the IPR is the problem, but they've decided to try to seperate you from your money. Don't know if that's the case, but it's the impression I get.

At any rate, changing the IPR is not a terribly difficult driveway task provided your socket is deep enough. To me it's easily worth the time and effort of trying it. $175 is not a good deal. It is available through the dealer for about $185 http://catalog.powerstrokeshop.com/p...&subcat2=73145
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cookie88
No starting problems...I got them just to have in the tool box in case I need them.

I just posted because your first post seems a little fishy the way the dealer reversed themselves. The post reads like they know that the IPR is the problem, but they've decided to try to seperate you from your money. Don't know if that's the case, but it's the impression I get.

At any rate, changing the IPR is not a terribly difficult driveway task provided your socket is deep enough. To me it's easily worth the time and effort of trying it. $175 is not a good deal. It is available through the dealer for about $185 http://catalog.powerstrokeshop.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=AccessoryCatalog&catalogid=3660&s iteid=214083&categoryID=86743&subcat1=73203&subcat 2=73145
The knuckle head at the stealership quoted me $310.85 for the IPR. BOY I OUTA.... well u fill in the blank. Why is it so difficult to find a honest dealer/service tech... Well I also need to know if there is an independent test that is run to verify that the HPOP is actually bad. I wanna ask em what test they ran in the morning when I go and speak directly to the tech.

Im just flat tired of getting screwed. This was me and the Mrs. dream truck and now that we got issues after the worthless warranty we are facing serious mech issues w/ folks that are tryin to get over on our misfortune IMO..
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Beast, HERE is a link on how to remove and rebuild the IPR. Some have had good results with it, for me it didn't work. Might be worth a try.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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In the pic of the pipe wrench on the threads,,,,DONT put the wrench on the threads , put it on the small barrel....
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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Beast, Have you checked your battery(s) voltage? Mine would crank and crank, but not fire at all. Got a guy to check it and it turned out to be a bad battery. Put in two new ones and she fired right up. Don't know if thats whats wrong, but it is possible.
Hope this helps.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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Here is an easy way to know if possibly your IPR is going south. Unplug the connectors and look into the socket, if you see oil puddle in the bottom then it might be done for.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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First thing I would check Is if the Reservoir Is full, Then I would Put A 4,000 PSI gauge On the High pressure oil rail and check the pressure. If i Got a reading of 250psi or less I would replace the IPR If i got between 250-450 Then I would Plug the HPO Line going to One of the heads If the pressure came up I would pull that Valve cover hook up the HPO line and look to see what injector was dumping oil. If the pressure didnt come up then I would switch the plug to the other head and see if the pressure came up.
The HPO is going some where you just need to find out where.
 

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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Dave 04
First thing I would check Is if the Reservoir Is full, Then I would Put A 4,000 PSI gauge On the High pressure oil rail and check the pressure. If i Got a reading of 250psi or less I would replace the IPR If i got between 250-450 Then I would Plug the HPO Line going to One of the heads If the pressure came up I would pull that Valve cover hook up the HPO line and look to see what injector was dumping oil. If the pressure didnt come up then I would switch the plug to the other head and see if the pressure came up.
The HPO is going some where you just need to find out where.
The res was at about 3/4 from the top last time I checked. Unfortunately I dont have the skill or the tools to check the pressure in that fashion. It makes great sense what you are saying and I definately understand the concept.

Both batteries were replaced 3 weeks ago w/ optima reds.

Here is a question. Would a bad IPR cause the truck not to start? Also would a bad IPR cause the pump pressure to read at 150 psi or is there aq seperate test that can be run to verify that the pump itself is bad?

I ask that because when I asked if the IPR was bad the service advisor said that he did not know and that the tech said that the pump needed to be replaced and we should go ahead and replace the ICP too.
 
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