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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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IMO, the JL's are over priced. You can get another speaker that works as well for less money. Companies like RE, Ascendant Audio, Sound Splinter, Stereo Integrity and Incriminator Audio.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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yeah i think maybe 4 12"s might be a little much but i want it to bump and still not be much in price but i also want it to sound good not all distorted and 12"s will prolly work just looking for what the best brands are and what would sound best and what base would thump the most
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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thats because you know nothing about them. they are one of the most powerfull and
top trophy winning systems today. they also under rate all their products. try learning about a company before you knock them. I have sold some ofthe so called best and alot of people have come in to my store talking about jl,ma,pb,and many other brands
that based on the 20yrs in this business I have found they just do not do the job.they work for a little while then fall flat on their face as stated. kicker, eq, mtx, pioneer, alpine, rockford, eclips, and even top of the line audiobahn have never let any of my customers down and just as a note we have install over 100,000.00 systems over the years and sold alot more products.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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note my last message was talkingabout earthquake products and the the messagethe person put them down.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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yeaH earthquake sounds good to me or maybe mtx idk all i know is i want to spend around 1500$ for the whole system including the lcd head unit
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by taylorj661
yeaH earthquake sounds good to me or maybe mtx idk all i know is i want to spend around 1500$ for the whole system including the lcd head unit
Just remember. Its like anything. You get what you pay for.

You want a touchscreen headunit, new door speakers, 4 12's, sub box, amps, wiring for $1500....

Lets average this out. You want loud... These prices are made up and will be just as a cheap pricing idea. Good stuff will cost more.

$400 headunit
$100 for 4 new door speakers
$400 amps
$150 wiring
$250 subs
$200 sub box for 4 12's
totals $1500...no installation unless you are doing it yourself. You will end up spending more when you have to replace the crap you blow or breaks. Personally I would spend the same amount, get less, it will sound better and last longer.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Capital Customs
thats because you know nothing about them. they are one of the most powerfull and
top trophy winning systems today. they also under rate all their products. try learning about a company before you knock them. I have sold some ofthe so called best and alot of people have come in to my store talking about jl,ma,pb,and many other brands
that based on the 20yrs in this business I have found they just do not do the job.they work for a little while then fall flat on their face as stated. kicker, eq, mtx, pioneer, alpine, rockford, eclips, and even top of the line audiobahn have never let any of my customers down and just as a note we have install over 100,000.00 systems over the years and sold alot more products.
I am just going to laugh at this. I guess all my years of experience mean nothing. I should just listen to you since you appearantly know more then me.

You really should proof read your post's too. They are soooooo damn hard to read.

Originally Posted by black04
Just remember. Its like anything. You get what you pay for.
Amen.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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$1,500 will get you a decent DVD/Nav head unit and that's it.

This is the sytem in my truck and this is with my buddy working at the shop I bought everything from hooking me up on pricing and doing the install on the side.

Eclipse AVN 5495 Navigation/DVD Head Unit $2,150

Eclipse BEC104 Rear View Camera $200

Eclipse SIR-ECL1 Sirius Tuner $125

Eclipse HDR105 High Definition Radio Tuner $275

PAC SWI-X Steering Wheel Control $50

Dynaudio 240 MKII Speakers (Front) $575

JL Audio XR650-CSi Speakers (2nd Row) $225

JL Audio VR650-CXi Speakers (3rd Row) $125

JL Audio Stealth Box 300w Sub $425

JL Audio BC-1 Remote Bass Control $40

JL Audio 450/4 Amplifier (75w x 2, 300w x 1) $500

JL Audio 300/2 Amplifier (150w x 2) $300

JL Audio 300/2 Amplifier (150w x 2) $300

JL Audio Amp Kits (3) $150

JL Audio RCA Cables $150

Clifford Concept 450 Alarm $185

Dynamat Extreme $250

Installation $1,200


TOTAL $7,225
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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let start with x-ovrdistortion, you must not know as much if you do not know how good earthquake systerms are. next if you do not like my post them do not read them.

next to black04 I am sorry but If someone told me to bypass the relays in a bad remote starter., I sure would not take anything they said when it came to anything auto or truck installs to heart. I would fine someone that knows.

now 200proof has the right idea. $1500. is not going to get toylorj661 what he wants
that is a fact. I do not like jl myself ( BUT ) it will work. they do ok. my choice is kicker
or EQ. and Eclipes but you must keep in mind (hard to do for some) I was a dealer for
them for years. everyone likes different things. what works for one may not work for the other.
my customers have come back time after time with their friends for sales and installs of the products I sold. 20yrs of service. I think I know something about it.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Capital Customs
let start with x-ovrdistortion, you must not know as much if you do not know how good earthquake systerms are. next if you do not like my post them do not read them.

next to black04 I am sorry but If someone told me to bypass the relays in a bad remote starter., I sure would not take anything they said when it came to anything auto or truck installs to heart. I would fine someone that knows.

now 200proof has the right idea. $1500. is not going to get toylorj661 what he wants
that is a fact. I do not like jl myself ( BUT ) it will work. they do ok. my choice is kicker
or EQ. and Eclipes but you must keep in mind (hard to do for some) I was a dealer for
them for years. everyone likes different things. what works for one may not work for the other.
my customers have come back time after time with their friends for sales and installs of the products I sold. 20yrs of service. I think I know something about it.


I was suggesting different ways to do things, the guy was obviously having a problem. So are you saying relay's never go bad...? Why is it wrong if you are to use external relays vs. internal ones, if the internal ones were bad? I have never done it that way, it was just an idea that came to me as I was trying to help...not telling him that I have access to info but you can't get it. Plus you were just telling the guy his system was junk and missing the whole point of the thread. I have had to replace relays before because they can go bad. The majority of your posts are never helpful. Go back and look at your posts in this and different threads, It seems everytime you post something you are having people disagreeing with you.. . I'm glad you are an installer and own a shop. It doesn't mean you know everything and there is more than one way to skin a cat. Also, if you are going to attack and try to insult someone learn proper grammar and how to spell. So, if I was so wrong to try and help the remote start guy out, why not say something at the time.....or offer another way to fix his issue? I won't try to help anymore due to your superior knowledge of everything 12volt related..
 

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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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just put in a single REaudio 12" XxX sub, custom build a ported box tuned to 28-30hz and you'll be LOUD, ive done stereo work in the past with different trucks, and on my last chevy 1500 i had a single XxX and it was 2 db shy of what i got out of 6 Kicker CVR's... but for that single speaker you need about 2kwatts RMS to work at peek efficiency, the sub is loud as all getup and is very clean bass also.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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OK blacko4 you should know that if the system has built in relays and they are not working then external ones will not work due to the main system fault. that is a no brainer.the total system needs replaced. factory defect. warranty or other. now if
you made the system and can go in and repair it then more power to you. do it.

to many people talk about products they know nothing about. I have tried most all of
them over the years. I know what works what does not. and the faults with all I used
there are also some brands I have never used so I can not say anything about them and I don`t. If it were not for my medical troubles I would still be open for business.
but I still have people come to my home for my input. I never sold junk and I never will
most people buy the cheeper brands and try to say It is as good as the top of the line
but they only need to hear the better products then they understand. sorry if you do
not like my grammer or spelling. I did not know I was in school again and I realy don`t care.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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you dont even understand what I was telling him about the relays...

you win....back to the thread...
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Now for all you looking for systems. you need to get you money right. then shop around. what will fit in your truck,how hard hitting you want it, look at alot of head units find what fits you. we can give you all kinds of info on what we would do and not everyone is going to agree thats life. some have never tried things. others won`t try.
I have stated what I would use depending on what fits. and that may or may not change if I was hands on. If you do not like a brand you do not have to use it.
no matter what I or some one else says. I have always gone outside the box and It has
paid very well.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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nice but i guess i can go a little higher like 2000 or 2500 but what about dual and their touchscreen head units is it reliable at all?
 
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