But I just ordered a coffee mug that says Engineerer to put on my desk when I get accepted into engineerer school.

hehe

 

Networking? Take a bunch of computers, connect them together and voila! Networked. What's to test on that? So easy a caveman could do it.

The bondo thing was funny by the way - I think I used to own one of his project cars.

(Where do I send the case of beer? I know when I'm out of my league...doesn't mean you can be an engineer though).

 

"so easy a caveman could do it"

LOL,
I swear there ARE cavemen out there running cables. You'd laugh if you saw some of the cable runs and how they implemented 'proper cable management'. Zip ties and duct tape. lol

 

Hey don't laugh. Both are great for keeping bumpers on a car, or fenders, and hood.

Don't ask me how I know this.....

 

But isn't that the problem in almost any profession these days? There are people who know enough to be dangerous, get their hands on some software that does most of the work for them and then call themselves an expert. I've seen some engineering students take their one or two semesters of surveying class and go out and call themselves surveyors. The people who hire them think they are getting a professional service when what they are getting is worthless.

By the way, what's wrong with zip ties? That's the only thing I have ever used to run network cable....but only when I couldn't hide it in the dropped ceiling of the office where I was "CADD Coordinator and Network Manager"...

 

I can't believe not one of you engineers commented on that video I liked to

 

The three basic rules where I work...

1. If it doesn't move, paint it.
2. If it doesn't move but is supposed to, WD-40 it.
3. If it does move but isn't supposed to, duct tape and zip tie it.

If it moves and is actually supposed to move, we have a success story.

 

That was pretty cute....I like this one better....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...84025483872237

Rube Goldberg would be proud.

 

Not to worry - I just looked it up ~

 

Zip ties (the plastic kind) have sharp, unforgiving edges. When dealing with cable bundles, especially fiber, the zip ties can damage the cable.
It just makes it more difficult when replacing equipment also.
Our teaching instructs to use the velcro straps. They're nice and soft.

But other than networking cables, I LOVE zip ties.
My mustang is 50% zip ties.

 

Post #55 with the 99% statement and $125 an hour is more than I can swallow and I have worked with these mighty than all engine rears in the construction field for 30 years, NOT IMPRESSED AT ALL WITH MANY!
Your hovering or shall I say treading water in sludge that is only a half inch below that of a attorney. The 1% are real engineers that respect other trades that we can work with. JMO!

 

Well, I am an engine-ear (mechanical)...
And I happen to love my job.

There is a lot of dissention towards us in this thread... and I will have to say, some of it is deserved.

As a disclaimer, engineering is a hard profession to be good at. You need a few pre-requisites.
1. To love it - and given how dry a lot of the Math's and principles are behind it, this ain't easy.
2. Practical experience. I could imagine the other engineers would agree, that piece of paper ain't worth a whole lot, until you have had your hands dirty for a while.
3. People skills, and given how left brain orientated it is, a lot of engineers are lacking significantly in this.
4. It ain't a 9-5 job. This goes with #1, but on your weekends, you need to get "down and dirty", build a race car, your own house - whatever, something that uses engineering principles, and real-world experience together.

I have worked as a fitter and turner - while I did enjoy the novelty of "making stuff", I got bored as anything after about 2 weeks.
Not to say that I don't respect what most "tradies" do - I enjoy fab'ing stuff on the weekend, but I am just not made of the mettle that could do it day in, day out.
Which is kind of dissapointing, because in Aus, you will earn $70 an hour day in day out in most trades, thanks to the mines. More than double what I get as an engineer.
I DO appreciate that there are other people out there that work differently to me though

And I will say this - some engineers don't comprehend what a tradie has to do sometimes, but I can say the opposite occurs a lot of times too.



As for the original poster - your neighbour was in the wrong, no doubt. And while I wasn't there to understand the situation, do you think that possibly approaching it in a different matter might have been more conducive?

 

It all boils down to the word respect, use it with others they will respect you. Granted no matter the profession or trade your in there will always be the ones that make us all look bad or shall I say hated.

 

i didn't think the thread was aimed at engineers in the way of demeaning them, engineering is one of the most important careers in the world.

the thing i really don't like is when someone has to jump to what their position is just to try to command respect from someone.

 

bf250, well worded and to the point, I agree. It's the bad ones that make me put my guard up to all of 'em.