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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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6.0 L diesel issues?

Was listening to a talk radio show on the weekend topic was best and worst vehicle ever owned. A fellow called in to say his '05 F250 with the 6.0 L was the worst he'd ever owned. He went on to claim he's had to have $30,000 in repairs done and it still isn't running right. He further claims that Ford and International are suing each other over this motor and all the issues relating to it. I searched the forums and can't find any other threads on this. Is the guy blowing smoke cuz he got a lemon or is there an issue? I ask because I was looking at getting one to install a 5th wheel to pull a travel trailer.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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The 6L Powerstroke had some issues out of the gate. The 03-04 motors had some problems that were worked out in the 05 and up models. That doesnt mean that the newer motors cant have a problem, but the 06 and up motors have been very good. As far as the International vs Ford thing, that has happened. I am going to try and get this right so here it goes: Ford sued International over not sharing the warrenty costs of the 6L Powerstroke and unjustifyingly raised the price of the new 6.4L motors. International then sued Ford over breach of contract b/c ford is in developement of its own inhouse diesels that will be ready for production before there contract with International is up. I hope i got that part right. If not, someone please correct. That guys problem sounds more like a bad service department than a bad truck. It sounds like that dealer was just throwing parts at a problem w/out proper diagnosis. I love my 6L Powerstroke and would definately tell someone else to buy one. If you are buying a used on, get an oasis report and test drive it good, then get back with us on the forum to see what you have found. Good luck
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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The 6L Powerstroke had some issues out of the gate. The 03-04 motors had some problems that were worked out in the 05 and up models. That doesnt mean that the newer motors cant have a problem, but the 06 and up motors have been very good. As far as the International vs Ford thing, that has happened. I am going to try and get this right so here it goes: Ford sued International over not sharing the warrenty costs of the 6L Powerstroke and unjustifyingly raised the price of the new 6.4L motors. International then sued Ford over breach of contract b/c ford is in developement of its own inhouse diesels that will be ready for production before there contract with International is up. I hope i got that part right. If not, someone please correct. That guys problem sounds more like a bad service department than a bad truck. It sounds like that dealer was just throwing parts at a problem w/out proper diagnosis. I love my 6L Powerstroke and would definately tell someone else to buy one. If you are buying a used on, get an oasis report and test drive it good, then get back with us on the forum to see what you have found. Good luck
yeah, for all intents and purposes you pretty much explained it. international even stopped shipping motors to ford at one point, and ford had to have an injuction granted by the judge to make them start shipping motors again or ford was gonna have a bunch of superduties sitting around with empty engine compartments.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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That guys problem sounds more like a bad service department than a bad truck. It sounds like that dealer was just throwing parts at a problem w/out proper diagnosis. I love my 6L Powerstroke and would definately tell someone else to buy one. If you are buying a used on, get an oasis report and test drive it good, then get back with us on the forum to see what you have found. Good luck
So basically this guys contention that there are thousands of 6.0L owners fighting with ford over this motor is bunk?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Where did you come up with thousands?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by spin498
He further claims that Ford and International are suing each other over this motor and all the issues relating to it. I searched the forums and can't find any other threads on this. Is the guy blowing smoke cuz he got a lemon or is there an issue?
This is posted on the FTE Home Page: www.ford-trucks.com/news/idx/0/334/article/Navistar_Files_Lawsuit_against_Ford_for_Breach_of_ Contract_Involving_Diesel_Engines_for_Ford_F150_Pi ckup_Trucks.html

If you did search this forum you would find an amazing amount of information on the 6.0 challenges. Happy Searching!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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I work for the New York City Fire Dept. Command vehicles had been GMC diesel powered Suburbans for years until GM dropped the diesel engine option. At that point the Fire Dept. switched to diesel powered Excursions. My office has a 2005. Since October of 2005 it has been out of service for 5 or 6 times for several weeks at a clip because the car would not start. No one seems to know what the problem is. Since these cars are still under warantee they are sent back to Ford instead of being repaired in house. You can pass many Ford dealers around the city and see several FDNY Excursions on their lots awaiting repairs. I would say there is a seriuos problem with these engines. I also heard GM will once again offer a diesel on their Suburbans/Yukon XL. I'm sure the FD will go back to GM if that is true.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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i got a chance to drive a 98 chevy 2500 this week with the 6.5L turbo diesel. let me tell you if it were not for the chance that i saw the turbo when i popped the hood to check the oil, (and the diesel clatter at idle upon start up) i honestly would have never known it was a diesel. there was absolutely no lag. it really felt like i was driving one of the fuel trucks with a 350 gasser in it. they ran the same power wise, they felt the exact same pulling away from a stop. It was nowhere near as powerful as my 6.0, but it was actually refreshing to drive a turbo diesel that felt so driveable around town. it was my first time driving the 6.5 and i can't believe the bad press it got, i wish i'd have known a long time ago, i would have got that motor in all the chevy's i used to own.
dont get me wrong, i wouldnt trade my powerstroke for anything, but it was a fun little truck to drive. sorry to hijack guys.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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that new 4.5L v8 turbo diesel for the chevy half tons coming actually is an impressive "little" motor. early estimates put it at 310 HP and 520TQ...
the exhaust valves and exhaust manifold are in the "V" where the intake manifold would normally go, and the intake manifold goes around the motor and goes into what normally be the exhaust valves. i'm not here to praise chevy guys, just read the article and it's still fresh in my mind. i enjoy all things diesel, but i love my SUPERDUTY
 
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by firepop5
Since October of 2005 it has been out of service for 5 or 6 times for several weeks at a clip because the car would not start. No one seems to know what the problem is.
The problem there is the Ford Dealers service department and the technicians not being able to properly diagnose the issues with that 6.0. A properly trained, Certified 6.0 Technician could easily figure out a no-start condition.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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2006 F-350 with a 6.0L

I have never had any issues with my 6.0L Great motor to me, I pull a 13,500 lb trailer camping.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 07:08 AM
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Where did you come up with thousands?
The radio show, the guy calling in with the complaint said if I recall correctly some astronomical number like 300,000 customers were fighting with Ford. Which was why I wondered why I'd never heard anything.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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If you did search this forum you would find an amazing amount of information on the 6.0 challenges. Happy Searching!
I did a search, used 6.0 litre, diesel and lawsuit as keywords, nothing jumped out as the answer to my question.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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I have never had any issues with my 6.0L Great motor to me, I pull a 13,500 lb trailer camping.
That's exactly what I'm looking to do next year when I retire.
 
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That number seems extremely high. Have you started looking at trucks or narrowing your choices down?
 
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