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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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flathead oil pressure drop

Can anyone tell me why the oil pressure on my 48 f2 drops after the engine runs for 15 or 20 minutes?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by frankfordf2
Can anyone tell me why the oil pressure on my 48 f2 drops after the engine runs for 15 or 20 minutes?
Usually caused by oil heating up and getting "thinner" and/or engine heating up and clearances increasing due to expansion.
What does the pressure start at and what does it drop to and at what rpm?
 
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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This is normal on all engines as long as it`s not too much of a drop in oil pressure and it`s still in the safe operating range.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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When they warm up the pressure goes down. What is the pressure cold and warm?

Idling after it is warm, my Y-block pressure is low (not dangerous low), but at top speed it stays around 60 pounds even hot.

All engines do that. It just depends on how low.

You might also want to tell them what engine it has and what oil you are using.

BTW: Welcome to the forum.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by frankfordf2
Can anyone tell me why the oil pressure on my 48 f2 drops after the engine runs for 15 or 20 minutes?
Typical flathead trait...gauge reads above half, when engine warms up, guage drops to near zero at idle. Ford solved the problem...by using a FALSE READING oil pressure sender. When ppl complained, dealers installed the phony sending unit. (The actual cause, so I've heard is worn cam bearings..which may or not be true, as I've seen low mileage engines do the same D thing).


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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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All info appreciated. The pressure starts at about half the gauge then drops to zero at idle. After I get moving again the pressure comes up a little past zero. Again thanks for the info.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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Running on the road at 50-60 mph my flathead V8 holds about 40-45 pounds of oil pressure. The middle of my gauge reads 30 lbs. At idle or slowing down coming to a stop light it will drop down to around 20 lbs or so. When I first start it up (motor cold) it will hold around 30-40 lbs but as the motor warms up it drops to 20 lbs. If yours goes to zero I would check the gauge first and make sure it is reading right. I would think if you don't have any knocks then your pressure would have to be better than what the gauge says. My pressure is always alot lower at idle than at a higher rpm. The pressure goes up really quick to from idle to taking off in the truck.

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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You didn't mention what grade of oil you are using. I would try 20W50, and if you have an oil filter make sure it has the restrictor in it (0.040" I believe). I have read about many people with Flatheads removing the oil filter since it drains off oil pressure and isn't full flow anyway. Just use a good oil, such as Valvoline 20W50, and change it regurlarly. Anyone agree, or disagree?
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You didn't mention what grade of oil you are using. I would try 20W50, and if you have an oil filter make sure it has the restrictor in it (0.040" I believe). I have read about many people with Flatheads removing the oil filter since it drains off oil pressure and isn't full flow anyway. Just use a good oil, such as Valvoline 20W50, and change it regurlarly. Anyone agree, or disagree?
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Sure, you can do that. But usually that plan calls for oil changes every 1,000 miles. If you don't drive much it's not a bad plan, but I would verify there is really a problem before going that route. More likely a bad gauge.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions, I will look into these and see if I can fix the problem. I'll post my solution when I get the f2 fixed. Again, thanks.
 
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Originally Posted by rswhitmore
........ I have read about many people with Flatheads removing the oil filter since it drains off oil pressure and isn't full flow anyway. Just use a good oil, such as Valvoline 20W50, and change it regurlarly. Anyone agree, or disagree?
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I've run mine with and without and frankly can't tell any difference on the gauge. If you change it religiously then it doesn't matter. Using a magnet in/on your oil pan to collect metallic particles may give you more peace of mind.

I currently have the filter back on since I have a tendency to let oil changes go until I have free time. Any filtration is better than none under those conditions.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 06:08 AM
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Your net even filtering 20% of the oil, (false sense of confidence) I have the filter canister on my 8BA, (for looks) but the 1/4" OD oil line is sealed at the block.
 
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Your net even filtering 20% of the oil, (false sense of confidence) I have the filter canister on my 8BA, (for looks) but the 1/4" OD oil line is sealed at the block.
It's probably less than 20%, but that's not the point. It is a very fine filter and it is removing particles. It won't prevent a particle from going thru the bearings, but how can it be bad to filter the oil? The 8BA oil pumps were made with extra capacity so that the bearings wouldn't miss the oil that goes to the filter.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Your net even filtering 20% of the oil, (false sense of confidence) I have the filter canister on my 8BA, (for looks) but the 1/4" OD oil line is sealed at the block.
And every 10 passes it all gets filtered theoretically, right? I'm just saying I need all the help I can get.

......plus this is on a flathead with over 100,000 miles. It was a used engine before I put 85K on it as a daily driver. Blows a bit (ok, a good bit) of oil vapor from the breather and its due for a rebuild.
 
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