stacking edge and SCT
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stacking edge and SCT
hey peoples,ok i bought a spartan SCT with Matts tunes 2 weeks ago. loaded the tunes and it was great! I also bought an exhaust, intake, and edge platnium for all the gauges. i went back to stock before letting shop do the work. when i got it back it sounded great! tried out the edge tunes also and it was ok, lots of defueing going on, FYI platnium has a lot of control now on your trans. well, the next day loaded agg st eco w/edge on stock. it seemed like it took some power away? i went to return the truck to stock tune and right at the end of downloading it said program failed, i tried again with same result. then i tried to start my truck and nothing. called sct tech and did not really know except disconnect edge and try to reprogram to stock. it worked and i pluged the edge back in and its ok. seems you can load tunes but cant go back to stock unless you remove the edge module then reinstall? anyone know whats up? thanks guys FYI not trying to stack allthough thats what it is.
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OK you cannot stack both programs unless your SCT is written to work with your Edge Module. Talk to your programmer on what you would like to do so he knows.
You can use both, stacking an Edge Module with an aggressive custom tune will advance your fuel timing too far.
You can use both, stacking an Edge Module with an aggressive custom tune will advance your fuel timing too far.
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The Edge is between the computer and the tuner. You shouldn't try flashing while the Edge is connected. As for the Edge Platinum, I had one. The tranny control still sucks and it will start slipping and cause damage. I dumped mine off on eBay for near what I paid for it and have been with an SCT ever since.
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i agree, if all you want is gauge monitoring, then get gauges, or a dashhawk, or commander, but the edge always caused probls with my truck even on stock setting.
also it does not have any CONTROL over the tranny, it defuels upon shifts to try to save it, but does nothing to control the shift timing, etc...
get matt or whoever wrote your tunes to crank it up, you can get well over 400HP to the wheels with exhaust/intake and a good sct tune.
also it does not have any CONTROL over the tranny, it defuels upon shifts to try to save it, but does nothing to control the shift timing, etc...
get matt or whoever wrote your tunes to crank it up, you can get well over 400HP to the wheels with exhaust/intake and a good sct tune.
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Here is what I do in order to change SCT tunes when you have an Edge Juice with Attitude as well:
When you begin installing the SCT program, cycle the Attitude monitor up and/or down continuously untill the SCT program has been written into your truck's computer. I was also getting the errors and a failure to complete the SCT reprogramming process, untill I called SCT and they basically told me to give the Edge box something to do during the programming process. No more errors.
I run them stacked, with the Edge set to Extreme and the SCT set to Drag Race (ATS tune). The truck runs well with no issues at 51K miles.
When you begin installing the SCT program, cycle the Attitude monitor up and/or down continuously untill the SCT program has been written into your truck's computer. I was also getting the errors and a failure to complete the SCT reprogramming process, untill I called SCT and they basically told me to give the Edge box something to do during the programming process. No more errors.
I run them stacked, with the Edge set to Extreme and the SCT set to Drag Race (ATS tune). The truck runs well with no issues at 51K miles.
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Originally Posted by VonOverkill
Here is what I do in order to change SCT tunes when you have an Edge Juice with Attitude as well:
When you begin installing the SCT program, cycle the Attitude monitor up and/or down continuously untill the SCT program has been written into your truck's computer. I was also getting the errors and a failure to complete the SCT reprogramming process, untill I called SCT and they basically told me to give the Edge box something to do during the programming process. No more errors.
I run them stacked, with the Edge set to Extreme and the SCT set to Drag Race (ATS tune). The truck runs well with no issues at 51K miles.
When you begin installing the SCT program, cycle the Attitude monitor up and/or down continuously untill the SCT program has been written into your truck's computer. I was also getting the errors and a failure to complete the SCT reprogramming process, untill I called SCT and they basically told me to give the Edge box something to do during the programming process. No more errors.
I run them stacked, with the Edge set to Extreme and the SCT set to Drag Race (ATS tune). The truck runs well with no issues at 51K miles.
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My SCT tuner did not know I was planning on stacking it with Edge. Both are turned up all the way. Can't say how my SCT tune compares with other's SCT tunes. Would be nice to be able to compare them. Truck is an '06 black King Ranch LB CC dualie work truck. The sound at full throttle is amazing...but if you drive it normally, it's barely louder than stock (except for the pronounced turbo whistle). Great truck...
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Volant with Pro Guard 7, MBRP Cool Duals in 4 inch, intake elbow, cat delete, muff delete, synthetic fluids, bypass oil filter (SCT & Edge). Have no idea of HP, TQ, or ET's
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Volant with Pro Guard 7, MBRP Cool Duals in 4 inch, intake elbow, cat delete, muff delete, synthetic fluids, bypass oil filter (SCT & Edge). Have no idea of HP, TQ, or ET's
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I lifted the heads running the Edge Platinum with the Hot unlock. I have a hard time believing you're running both and no issues at those levels. Anthough, the Edge is just manipulating the sensor readings which will be higher than normal due to the SCT changing the programing, so I guess it's possible, but you aren't getting what you paid for out of either one then.
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I do sometimes set the Edge to gauges only. I've experimented running only one at a time. I get best acceleration with both maxed. I do agree that that probably means that the SCT program could be hotter. There are a lot of custom tunes out there, and some are better than others. I will probably try an extreme tune from Matt or Eric at some point and replace the gauge function of my Attitude monitor with a DashDAQ or something. I've added up the cost of the modifications I'd like to make, and I passed $100K in about 2 minutes. I guess I'll have to pace myself, and resist full throttle runs for more than a few seconds. I've set defuel for 30 pounds of boost and 1250 degrees EGT (post turbo), so I'm not pushing her as hard as it seems. Plus ATS may be exaggerating what they call their tune, so it may be quite mild compared to some. But I can see how the computer might get confused with two personalities sometimes telling it conflicting things. And I did notice that if I only run one unit at a time, the SCT gives better acceleration, plus the bonus of Jakebrake function and EGR off.
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I have the edge platinum as well, and wondered this too. I like all the power but hate the abuse on the tranny. I love all the guages, as well as the turbo timer, and all the other safety features. For the $800 I paid for the edge it would be hard to find guages, and turbo timers for that much less. Any ideas on how to just run the edge guages and features without it interfering with the SCT?