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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Here is a simple question for those of you that have recently replaced the hinge pins. Did you have any play in the door when you were done. I recently did mine and yesterday I found that my door seem to sag less then a 1/4" but that is making it hard to shut the door without slamming it. Does this mean I need to replace it agian or could my door need algining? What do you guys think?
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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There should be no sag with new pins and bushings. 1/4 inch seems like a lot to me. Did you replace the bushings too?
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Yea I replaced both, but I think one bushing cracked during the install. I guess that would be the problem. I just wanted to know if I should expect any play or shouold it all be eliminated.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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Did you adjust the striker after the hinge repair?....
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Casey, are you saying a 1/4 inch sag but no play? Then the door needs to be repostioned to make it align right, the hinge bolts need to be loosened and the door adjusted, and as Action4478 stated, the striker may need realigning. FYI for others that are doing this, both top and bottom hinge pins and bushings need to replaced at the same time.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Sorry guys I was out of town for a week. I was saying a sag which would also be a play in the door, and yes I replaced both. I guess that mean one of them is wrong since it is a sag.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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Doesn't adjusting the hinge bolts at the door only allow the door to be moved up-down, while not changing orientation? That is to say, a sagging condition seems to imply rotation of the door, fronm front to back of the vehicle. It seems to me that this would have to be corrected with the hinge bolts that attach behind the fender. When the 2 groups of 3 bolts are loosened it allows angular adjustment of the door. Only problem is there doesn't seem to be a way to access these bolts w/o removing the fender..

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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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Remove the door & you can get at them.....
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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yea but how do you gauge the effect on the door alignment if its disconnected when you adjust the hinges?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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You can adjust hinges w/o removing fender or door its not easy but can be done.Supporting the door from top helps a lot. Patients helps also.7
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mitch01
yea but how do you gauge the effect on the door alignment if its disconnected when you adjust the hinges?
..Trial & error....

You have to keep putting the door back on...

The crude way is a drift & a BFH...or a door aligning (bending)..tool that I use every day

Fuelman knows how to do it with out removing anything...Maybe he can tell you how....
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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It really takes two people .You can get to the bolts between the fender and door w/a swivel and socket or a wooble head extension.It is a very tight fit but can be done.Slightly loosen upper and lower bolts then have someone lift outer edge of door,snug a bolt on each hinge until striker goes into latch while pushing w/ only one finger. Keep trying until your satisfied with closing then tighten all bolts.Admittedly the forward most bolts are tough you may have to tweak the fender alittle but if careful no worries. Good luck..
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Actually.. ,Fuelman is mostly correct...I went out & looked at mine, & you can get at the forward most bolts on the upper & lower hinge ,from in between the door & the fender with the door still on,the back one top & bottom might be tough,, but , with two of the three loose , tapping on the hinge , if will easily move ...Best to do one at a time...top first.....


Sorry for the original misdirection, I do this every day on one vehicle or another ,always on somone elses veh, (cant take a chance on chipping or scratching anything) so whipping the doors off is no big deal...
 

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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Yea its tough you may have to put some side pressure on extention to keep it from slipping off but it didn't damages my fender at all.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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I have found that a 3/8" ratchet, extention and a flex socket work best to reach the hinge bolts. Hinge bolts are "ON THE HINGE" the door stricker is the one that the latch engages. In some cases I have had to place a washer behind a door mounting bolt (door to the hinge) to get the bottom of a door to come up enough to line up. Basicly it's like stated above, trial and error until you get it lined up right.
 
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