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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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They're not leaking, i guess i thought they would be firmer than they are. The truck will literally nosedive when braking hard at low speeds. like i said before the truck seems very bouncy, not really firm at all.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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I consider a "good" shock one that let's me keep control of the vehicle when going over bumpy roads.

My Rancho 9000x's do this to an extreme. The stockers on my '01 stank - literally making the truck go into the next lane if it's around a curve.

Any Bilstein owners care to comment?
 
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SLAYER1
They're not leaking, i guess i thought they would be firmer than they are. The truck will literally nosedive when braking hard at low speeds. like i said before the truck seems very bouncy, not really firm at all.
Which bilstein shocks do you have? The 5100's or HD's?

If you have the HD's...did you make sure to install them correctly? The correct way...is to have the blue boot in the down position.

If the 5100's, then the black boot in the up position.

Sorry had to ask...because your bilstein shocks are not operating properly. My SD does not bounce like you mention...and actually sometimes I think the shocks are to stiff. Now at about 5000 miles...they are actually starting to break-in...and make the truck drive and handle better...IMO.

Good luck with yours...

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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by krewat
I consider a "good" shock one that let's me keep control of the vehicle when going over bumpy roads.

Any Bilstein owners care to comment?
I totally agree krewat...and my Bilstein HD's do exactly that.


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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by krewat
I consider a "good" shock one that let's me keep control of the vehicle when going over bumpy roads.

My Rancho 9000x's do this to an extreme. The stockers on my '01 stank - literally making the truck go into the next lane if it's around a curve.

Any Bilstein owners care to comment?
Um I dont know exactly what you want commented on but the bielstons that i have handle my f250 gaser witha 6" lift on 35"s while four wheeling/mudding/ driviing on mountain logging roads/ rough dirt roads and I handle just fine. I dont have any complaints. They were far better then the stock ones that ford put on there, much better then the skyjacker ones that came with my lift. Thats all I have to compare to so far.

Oh and where did you guys see that thing on installing the 5100's upside down like that. I have the black boot facing down like the instructions said to when I got them. Should I change this or does it really matter. They are working fine.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by biz4two
Which bilstein shocks do you have? The 5100's or HD's?

If you have the HD's...did you make sure to install them correctly? The correct way...is to have the blue boot in the down position.

If the 5100's, then the black boot in the up position.

Not true. I asked Bilstein about this. These shocks are monotubes and as such can be mounted either way. The 05 and newer HD shocks HAVE to be mounted with the blue cover (it's not a boot on these, just an open ended cover) up. If you mounted them with the cover down, it would fill with crap, mud, debris in no time and cause a failure.

My 05 with 103K had the original shocks on it. None were leaking, all 4 had pressure and would extend on their own when I removed them. The difference in the ride was significant when I switched to the HDs. Even my wife, who is truck-clueless, thought the ride was much improved.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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I have the HD's mounted boot down on all four corners.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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I have the HD's mounted boot down on all four corners.
Year and mileage of your truck?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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99 F350 CC LB 4X4 112K, put the shocks on about 1000 miles ago.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggziff
Not true. I asked Bilstein about this. These shocks are monotubes and as such can be mounted either way. The 05 and newer HD shocks HAVE to be mounted with the blue cover (it's not a boot on these, just an open ended cover) up. If you mounted them with the cover down, it would fill with crap, mud, debris in no time and cause a failure.
*** Speaking of the '99-'04 SD only ***

Well if that is true, then Bilstein should re-print all the instructions...and stop putting the arrow on the shock casing. Don't you think?

Here is the problem with installing the HD's in the "wrong" direction. The internal valve is directional and does not open and close properly when in the wrong direction. This will cause the shock to bounce more and not have as much control.

IMHO...just follow the instructions that come with the shocks!


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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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I was a little confused after search around on the net the last time I put Bilstiens on so I called one of their techs and asked about which direction (boot up v. boot down). He said "that with a mono tube shock it doesn't matter. But, (he added) you mount Bilstiens so you can read the label when they are installed." I had a 2004--the boots went down on all four corners and I could read all four labels. I haven't received the Bilsteins for my 2005 yet, but it looks like at least the front set goes in blue rubber stuff up. I'll let you on Wednesday or Thursday. Oh yeah--I didn't see any directions on the boxes...That's why I called Bilstien; I'm not really mechanical (shocks, oil, filters, air..that's about it).
 

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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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If you mounted them with the cover down, it would fill with crap, mud, debris in no time and cause a failure.
Agreed
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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I also called Bilstein directly before I installed my 5100's because there were no instructions indicating what end of the shock went on top. I was told the same thing as dougc, they get installed so you can read the label. In the case of the 5100's, the boot goes down. As far as water and debris getting into them goes, as long as you keep the zip-ties good and tight on the boot, debris won't get in. Actually, boot down is better in my opinion because if water somehow finds it's way in under the boot, then it will easily drain through the drain holes in the end of the boot. That wouldn't happen if the shock was in the other direction. If water got in then it would have nowhere to go, provided the zip-tie on the boot was tight. That happened to the Rancho shocks I took off when I installed my lift. The end of the shock under the boot was severly corroded.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kenneBF250V10
I also called Bilstein directly before I installed my 5100's because there were no instructions indicating what end of the shock went on top. I was told the same thing as dougc, they get installed so you can read the label. In the case of the 5100's, the boot goes down. As far as water and debris getting into them goes, as long as you keep the zip-ties good and tight on the boot, debris won't get in. Actually, boot down is better in my opinion because if water somehow finds it's way in under the boot, then it will easily drain through the drain holes in the end of the boot. That wouldn't happen if the shock was in the other direction. If water got in then it would have nowhere to go, provided the zip-tie on the boot was tight. That happened to the Rancho shocks I took off when I installed my lift. The end of the shock under the boot was severly corroded.
I was referring to the 05 and newer shocks (as referenced in my post). They don't use the rubber tube cover, they use an open ended boot that isn't sealed.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by biz4two
*** Speaking of the '99-'04 SD only ***

Well if that is true, then Bilstein should re-print all the instructions...and stop putting the arrow on the shock casing. Don't you think?

Here is the problem with installing the HD's in the "wrong" direction. The internal valve is directional and does not open and close properly when in the wrong direction. This will cause the shock to bounce more and not have as much control.

IMHO...just follow the instructions that come with the shocks!


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My shocks came with no instructions...same as others here have posted.
 
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