I just bought a 99 F250 Lariat CC 4X4 with the V10. I have to say that I LOVE it. Who would think that such a large truck could ride so smooth. Night and day compared to my 72 F250. Anyway, I heard thru a friend to check out the Tornado Fuel Saver. I thought I would see if anyone here has any experience with them. Their website is www.tornadofuelsaver.com for anyone who wants to check them out. They run $70. I would like any input before I spend that much. Thanks in advance.

Matt

 

Consensus is that these "fuel savers" are ineffective at best. Just save the $70 for fuel or maybe a down-payment on some mods.

 

NoMo is right!! I read a test an independent test on various "fuel savers", SNAKE OIL!! Keep your $70 bucks. Right now that would fill my Xcursion twice!! Keep her tuned right and your V10 should give you some respectable MPG.

 

Regarding the tornadofuelsaver...the thing isn't worth the metal it's made out of unless you want to use it as an oversized cookie cutter or paperweight. I purchased one in January for my Ford F-150 5.4L 4X4 OffRoad Supercab hoping as others that I might scrape up another mile or two per gallon. I had my truck tuned up, aligned, tires rotated and the works so I could give this thing the greatest benefit of the doubt, and got a 2-3 mpg DECREASE for my money and trouble. I tried to return the unit for a refund and got the brush off and NO money refunded. The unit is crap and the company doesn't back up their "guarantee." Save your money for some exhaust work or superchip, 'cause this isn't the answer.

 

I agree with the "this thing is crap" statement. Since cars were invented there has ALWAYS been some shyster trying to convince us that THEIR product will bring more HP, torque and better gas mileage. And they just NEVER do. Fact is; 15 parts air and 1 part gas make X amount of horsepower. Increased air FLOW in and out of the engine (which is basically a big air pump) is the ONLY way to increase HP. Look at at the junk that's been pawned off on us over the years. Magnetic in-line "hydrocarbon aligners", "intake air-swirlers". Come on, we're the smartest, most advanced, highest paid nation on earth. And we fall for the STUPIDEST things. There's no "magic" in science. 2+2 always equals 4. No matter what the info-mercials (gosh I hate that term, there is NO information given that isn't COMPLETE hype) say. More air in, and more air out, mixed with the appropriate amount of fuel is the ONLY way to gain power. Ken

1998 E-350 V-10 XLT 15 passenger highway eater.

 

I am speculating the following:

With EFI:
i) the tornado would not work as it would only get the air swirling and not the air/fuel mixture. the air would likely stop swirling by the time it reached the injector anyways.

With Carburetor:
i) to be most effective the tornado would have to be placed between the carb and manifold to get the air/fuel mixture swirling.

My conclusion would also be that they are not worth the metal they are made of.

Fordy

 

If they REALLY worked, Ford (and all the other factories) could make them for a couple of bucks, tops. Don't you think they would be using them if they REALLY worked? That should tell you something...

 

>>With EFI:
>i) the tornado would not work as it would only get the air
>swirling and not the air/fuel mixture. the air would likely
>stop swirling by the time it reached the injector anyways.


Hell, it'll stop swirlin' the moment it hits the throttle plate!

 

There are things at work besides more air in and more air out. That's why engines nowadays put out more HP per CI than they did 20 years ago. Water injection has been used since WWII in US and British fighters, cold air verses hot air, timing, timing advance and timing curve, valve overlap, lift, duration, how well the mixture is, octane, compression, combustion chamber design, intake length, spark gap, drive train friction, drive train mass, cylinder heat (how quickly the cooling system can evacuate it) and much more. All those things are real.

But drop in magic like the Tornado, magnetic fuel line adapters, etc. are just continuing examples that P.T. Barnum was right.

 

I think that the throttle plates would absolutely stop any swirl that the Tornado might have induced in the intake tract... even at WOT and besides what would mileage matter at WOT.
As for a OEM use of such a device; I recall an 84 Corvette that a friend had. 84 wqas the first year of that generation Corvette, anyway it had the Cross-fire injection(this was before the Tuned Port Injection). It was, I think, of a similar design to the 1960s dual Quad Cross ram intake. It had a single throttle body injector on each diagonal corner of the intake(front/left..rear/right) feeding a large open plenum under the injectors and cover plate. oh yes my point.. directly UNDERNEATH each throttle body was a fan looking swirl kind of thingy that had to be somewhat restrictive but would spin the mixture because the fuel distribution was terrible on this motor because of the large plenum and the distance to the intake ports in the manifold. The swirl thing was a crutch for a badly designed fuel injection system(gm only made this system for I think 3 years) that was not too popular as i recall. A lot of people called it the Cease Fire Injection

 

 

:-X23 that tornado device is crap!!!. crap crap crap!!! 70 bucks?? (thats like 140 canada dollars)more than enough to fill my 100 liter tank twice and have money left over for cheeseburgers and B**Rs for all my buddies. it continuosly amazes me the crap that these people make. Z-Max products, gas tablets (?) "tune up in a can" (?) etc etc etc... all these products should be loaded up in a missile and fired off at the impending alien invasion (i joke)... sorry for the rant but these products annoy me. need coffee now bye.......

 

"Magnetic fuel line adapters" I remember when those came out in the late 70's. My grandfather swore by them. Said he got 2-3 mpg better.
I never believed it though.

2000 F350SD,SRW,RC,5spd man,V10, Front Leveling Kit,4.30 gears, 285/75/16 Wild Country

 

OK I do not feel like doing math dut 1 mpg better X the numder of miles you drive how many mile would it take to pay for this device. Now add all of the other money you wasted chasing mpg.
Put a few pounds more air in the tire free and you get a little. not much but it was free.

As far as 15:1 that has been the same for years but now you can get 100 hp per liter you could never get that in the past. Fule injestion an better ignition as well as meatalurgy and better chamber designe are helping us get more of the energy that is stored in fule remember we are getting less than 50% of the energy stored in gasoline out of it. Gas engines are very unefficent.

 

>OK I do not feel like doing math dut 1 mpg better X the
>numder of miles you drive how many mile would it take to pay
>for this device. Now add all of the other money you wasted
>chasing mpg.
>Put a few pounds more air in the tire free and you get a
>little. not much but it was free.
>
>As far as 15:1 that has been the same for years but now you
>can get 100 hp per liter you could never get that in the
>past. Fule injestion an better ignition as well as
>meatalurgy and better chamber designe are helping us get
>more of the energy that is stored in fule remember we are
>getting less than 50% of the energy stored in gasoline out
>of it. Gas engines are very unefficent.

My only point with these things is that they're all junk, they're scams and the people who sell them, promote them, whatever, are lying to us and ripping us off. And the sooner we figure out that there's no 'magic' the sooner we will take that hard earned money and spend it either on something useful, or use 50% of it to help the needy. NoMo has taken in a couple of needy kids, now HE is the MAN. But by us continuing to buy garbage like this we are just paving the way for more rip-off artists to keep pushing them off on us. Yes engine technology has come a long way, but the car companies spend billions to get their CAFE down .5 MPG, and some hype artist promises 20% better fuel mileage and 10 more horsepower and we jump off the cliffs like a bunch of lemmings. I just hate to see people waste their money. So I speak up, I don't mean to p%ss anyone off, I just know how hard I work for my money, I want all of you to keep as much of yours as is possible.

Ken, 98 E-350 XLT V-10 ClubWagon