[QUOTE=jtg2259]I i dont know about the 6.4 psd but the new cummins is not so great. 6.0 psd is alot better as buddies pass me loaded down and make fun.[/QUOTE

Im not a big dodge fan but i think there milage issues will soon be improving. The new cummins is the only engine of the big three not running at 100% rated output. I think there at 80%. So i think once they get the emissions figured out they will step to the plate with good milage and hp numbers. Just my .02

 

Where do all these Chevy/Dodge guys come from anyway? And why would they want to come to a Ford site to try and convince us that their truck is better somehow? It's like having a vienna sausage and trying to tell me it's bigger and better than my footlong. Makes no sense is all I'm saying. Why not just sit in the parts dept of their local GM dealer and blow sweet nothings in each others ears instead. Friggin retards!

BTW....If you make your truck purchases based on what some rag tells you then deserve a Dodge. The Chevy is probably a decent enough truck but I wouldnt know and dont care. I drive a FORD and hang out on a FORD website. Go away banana smugglers!

 

hehehehehehe....

 

[QUOTE=DMAX-HD]Ya no, im new around this site and it seems you are always respectfull of the ford owners and you seem to maintain well around here, but your favorite comment is lets bring the facts, i bring the facts and you call me sensitive. I just find that interesting.

I have owned my share of Chevy diesels and Dodge diesels in my construction business and my facts are based on personal experience not a bunch of BS. Of the trucks i've owned the ford has always proven to be the best work horse of the group. Buy work horse i mean lets load it to the max, somtimes a little over to get the job done go 100,000 miles and see whats left of your truck. I dont abuse my trucks but i do use them for what they were built for. And ya im sure you got a guy on a chevy site saying his truck is the best and all the ford he has had sucked so you can take this for what it is.

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I think it'll be looked at as the motor thrown out 'to keep up' with GM. And not that GM didn't have it's problems but I think it was more the perception that Ford let down a lot folks in they way they handled the whole deal. Where-as GM added an axtra 100k warranty "to some model" years for injector issues the perception was Ford tried to 'sweep' the problems under the rug.

WOW thats funny I was never privileged to this warranty on my 2 01 duracrap's. As far as the 6.0 PSD being thrown out to compete with the Duramax, The Duramax was thrown out to keep up with the 7.3 PSD and replace the 6.5 diesel.

You can thank Dodge and Ford for leaving chevy in the dust for strong reliable diesel's in the late 90's and prompting chevy to give birth to the Duramax.

 

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I really can't disagree with anything you've said there. Duramax being put out to compete with the 7.3 and to make a statement that GM could compete with Ford and well even Dodge (I guess it's a matter of perception).

GM put 200k warranty on all 01's, 02' and 03' Not sure why you would have any issues receiveing warranty work on yours.

Again I don't think I've stated anyplace in this thread that the 6.6 was any better or worse then the 6.4. Just trying to keep it somewhat realisitc. To place to much value in hp/tq ratings is a little pointless considering next year those numbers will be muted be the next model years or a differant manufacturer.

Besides if I wasn't around here who would you guys debate with? It's be some guy with a dmax to come over here and really try and bash you guys. Even though sometimes things get interesting - it's all good in the end.

 

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Besides if I wasn't around here who would you guys debate with? It's be some guy with a dmax to come over here and really try and bash you guys. Even though sometimes things get interesting - it's all good in the end.[/QUOTE]

Right on brother

 

[QUOTE=DMAX-HD][QUOTE=SANDDEMON08]Myself I welcome DMAX-HD comments, seems like he is not trying to bash but just debate. A lot of my friends have Chevy's and Dodges. We have a lot of good debates and a little ribbing when we go camping. Use to be a Chevy truck person too. Still Gm when it comes to my cars. I think it is good for the site when some one outside comes on and gives some good info to debate on. If Ford had not come out with their Super Duty in 99 I would probably be driving a Chevy. Just feel the Super Duty is a better truck for me.

 

Good attitude! Now that I own a FOrd and GMC diesels I have to agree!

 

Debating is great, I have to agree though that I have not seen any test were any of the new truck were vastly ahead of the pact.

 

Yeah I think though the only negative thing about the 6.4 Ford is the reputation Navstar has aquired due to the problematic 6.0 motors that are out there! Erase the 6.0 from all's memory and go from the 7.3 to the 6.4 and things may be different!!

I really wanted to buy a new F-350 but I just couldn't do it after the 6.0 I have! The potential engine probs kept me from buying one. Who wants there truck in the shop that much, not me!

I have never ever ever had any vehicle in the shop as much as my 04 6.0 Ford??

 

All a bunch of blah, blah, blah. Buy what you want, I drove all of the Big 3's 3/4 ton diesels before I bought my Ford, and it was the one I liked the most. My next truck will probably be a dodge, hopefully they will have the automatic transmission figured out by then...