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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Hi all, I'm a total newbie to trucks so forgive me if this is a dumb post/question.

Ok, with that out of the way I'm looking to buy a used 2003 - 2006 4x4 F250/F350 Powerstroke Diesel. I just test drove a few F350's today and noticed that the steering is sloppy with quite a bit of play. So my question is: Is there an upgraded steering rack that will tighten up the steering and make the rig more responsive?

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Since you stated you are new to trucks it could just be that is the way trucks handle and you aren't used to it. However, some people in here have had issues with different parts wearing out that can cause the steering to have excessive play in it. You really need to try to dirve a similar truck and figure out if it is just that truck, or how you are used to a vehicle handling.

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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They aren't sports cars for sure. In addition to what beerstalker said, why not visit the Ford dealership and drive one or two brand new ones. That will give you a baseline to compare with pre-owned units.


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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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These trucks are designed to be a little less responsive than your average sports car so that when you have a heavy load or trailer any sway doesn't throw you off the road or cause you to oversteer. That said many people have complained about steering problems where the truck jumps to the side too quickly under some road conditions. Most of these issues seem to be with 4 x 4's and several of them have oversized tires. I've noticed that new tires on the front will tend to make my truck wander a little depending on the road because of the grip compared to my old bald ones.

If you're test driving newer and older trucks and they all steer the same to you then I'd say it's probably not an issue. Do you have any friends who have a super duty that could maybe take it for a spin before you decide on one?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bpounds
They aren't sports cars for sure. In addition to what beerstalker said, why not visit the Ford dealership and drive one or two brand new ones. That will give you a baseline to compare with pre-owned units.


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You’re right, I should test drive new truck to get an idea if the steering issue is me being not used to the way a truck handles, or if the particular trucks I drove had wear issues. If it does turn out that the steering is normal for a truck I would still love to find a quicker steering rack (i.e. a lower ratio one) for the truck I end up purchasing.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Good luck with that cyrexpl. The F-250 has a g'dawful turning radius in addition to the "little" play. It does take some getting used to, and I like the explanation from F-350-6. I'd never thought about it before, but it does seem to make sense.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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cyrexpl, if you buy one of these you may want to try changing the factory sterring stablizer shock and put a Rancho in it's place it seemed to make a difference. Specially if there is some miles on the one your looking at.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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cyrexpl, if you buy one of these you may want to try changing the factory sterring stablizer shock and put a Rancho in it's place it seemed to make a difference. Specially if there is some miles on the one your looking at.
I'll have to look into the Rancho steering stabilizer.



So I test drove a new 08 and it is ME I'm just to used to having cars with incredibly tight steering (I drive an STI and I've got a Forester XT with a custom 11.5:1 steering rack).

While I can understand F350-6's explanation for the sloppy steering, I still would love to tighten up the steering on any F250/350 I end up getting. Perhaps there is someone out there with the mechanical know-how to modify a stock Superduty steering rack to one with a quicker ratio?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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F250/F350 do not have Rack and Pinion steering
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cyrexpl
I'll have to look into the Rancho steering stabilizer.



So I test drove a new 08 and it is ME I'm just to used to having cars with incredibly tight steering (I drive an STI and I've got a Forester XT with a custom 11.5:1 steering rack).

While I can understand F350-6's explanation for the sloppy steering, I still would love to tighten up the steering on any F250/350 I end up getting. Perhaps there is someone out there with the mechanical know-how to modify a stock Superduty steering rack to one with a quicker ratio?
I don't think a stabilizer will help you. It will probably only help with the dampening effect. Hopefully someone on here is knowledgeable enough about these systems to tell you where the difference is. I would suspect the steering gear box, but that is just a guess on my part. I know my wifes 150 drives like a car and I hate it. I feel like if I were to sneeze I would end up changing lanes.

If you can figure out which parts need changing you'll just have to see if the fit, or if you need to do some adapting. Also make sure any parts are strong enough to handle the extra forces the increased weight of these trucks will put on the components.

If money is no object I'd say just put in a 4 wheel steering system and you could turn circles around the rest of us.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweetpea02
F250/F350 do not have Rack and Pinion steering
This is the exact reason why I need to find a service manual - I know NOTHING about trucks. I've always been an import 4-cylinder turbo charged guy.

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I know my wifes 150 drives like a car and I hate it. I feel like if I were to sneeze I would end up changing lanes.
Man you would absolutley hate my Forester XT if you think the steering on an F150 is tight.

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If you can figure out which parts need changing you'll just have to see if the fit, or if you need to do some adapting. Also make sure any parts are strong enough to handle the extra forces the increased weight of these trucks will put on the components.

If money is no object I'd say just put in a 4 wheel steering system and you could turn circles around the rest of us.
Sadly money is always a consideration and I think four wheel steering would be far too cost prohibitive. I really need to find a service manual to figure out exactly what the heck the 250/350 steering system is composed of. Anyone have an idea where to buy a service manual, perhaps one on CD-rom?
 
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