Notices
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Early Eighties Bullnose Ford Truck

Power Steering is Whining

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 03:32 PM
  #1  
zpmps2's Avatar
zpmps2
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 412
Likes: 0
Power Steering is Whining

Hi all, my power steering on my 1980 F-150 4x4 with a 351M is whining badly, especially when i turn. At an idle, it whines a little bit but when i turn the wheel aroound corners and sitting in parking lots, its extremily loud. I know that i can buy some lucas oil power steering less whine but i dont want to just put it aside, I WANT TO FIX IT, and this leads me and my dad to the question, is the steering box the one that whines, or is it the power steering pump, if yall can, I wil need an answer on which one of these it is and i know this has to happen on some of the ol' fords on this forum. I posted this in the right forum on steering, but its only gotten 1 view in 2 hrs, so if you could, i need the answer quick b/c were heading to Walmart to get the 4 wheeler tires put on and its right by autozone. Thanks in advance.

Taylor
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 07:00 PM
  #2  
lostin90s's Avatar
lostin90s
Postmaster
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,978
Likes: 0
From: Central PA
NApa as well as other retailer can get a Saginaw pump conversion . And they don't squeal . You may have problem being a 351 M Guy in finding one. I get mine from E-vans Ford put them on some of the vans. I put whole serpentine system off 94 on a 86 while back .

But I dont know if the older 351m vans have them or could be had.
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 08:57 PM
  #3  
83stepside32784's Avatar
83stepside32784
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 148
Likes: 0
hi the answer your looking form is the pump the pump is what wines when it starts to wear out it will last a good liottle while like that but man is it annoying
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 10:50 PM
  #4  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,983
Likes: 2,736
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
All Fords do it, even the cars. You can try to get rid of it, but they all whine a little bit. Just make sure your suction line is not leaking, or it can suck air and make it whine worse that it normally does.
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 10:59 PM
  #5  
zpmps2's Avatar
zpmps2
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 412
Likes: 0
where would the suction line be, can you show me a picture of it and will it be in the way and will i definently see it when i replace it in the morning, i bought a new one!!

Taylor
 
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 11:00 PM
  #6  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,983
Likes: 2,736
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
You have two lines going to the pump. One of them is a special high pressure line, and the suction line is a regular hose with a hose clamp.
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2007 | 05:59 PM
  #7  
jowilker's Avatar
jowilker
Fleet Owner
25 Year Member
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 24,552
Likes: 74
From: Creedmoor, North Carolina
Club FTE Silver Member

Add some Lucus power steering treatment. It made a believer out of me.

John
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2007 | 09:51 PM
  #8  
reamer's Avatar
reamer
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 3,789
Likes: 26
From: Connecticut
I tried the lucas, No good for me. Got a new pump, installed an inline filter and nice and quiet now.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:24 PM
  #9  
hoxiii's Avatar
hoxiii
Postmaster
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,711
Likes: 2
From: Pittsburgh
before deeming your pump dying, make sure your fluid is full and isn't all full of air.

Check the fluid level, if it's low add some. If it isn't low, take the reservoir cap off and start the truck. If the fluid looks pink and foamy it has air in it.

If there's air cycle your steering wheel lock to lock a couple of times while the truck is running, but not moving. The whining should start to get better. It will probably never go completely away if your truck has the Ford C-II pump (plastic bodied pump).

Justin
 
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:17 PM
  #10  
zpmps2's Avatar
zpmps2
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 412
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by hoxiii
before deeming your pump dying, make sure your fluid is full and isn't all full of air.

Check the fluid level, if it's low add some. If it isn't low, take the reservoir cap off and start the truck. If the fluid looks pink and foamy it has air in it.

If there's air cycle your steering wheel lock to lock a couple of times while the truck is running, but not moving. The whining should start to get better. It will probably never go completely away if your truck has the Ford C-II pump (plastic bodied pump).

Justin
its been whining since the day i got it though, and i did all you said b/c my FORD neighbor said all ya said, and it was fine, so i changed everything and will hook up the high pressure hose in the morning, i couldnt get it on tonight, is hammering on the pulley to the shaft a bad thing, i had a socket bigger than the hole, so it should be fine right? My dad said its a 75 percent messup chance, 25 percent ok chance, is this true?

Taylor
 
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:20 AM
  #11  
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Moderator
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 56,983
Likes: 2,736
From: Virginia
Club FTE Gold Member
Hammering on the shaft can damage the pump. If it leaks or is worse than the old one, then you know what did it. How did you get the pulley off the old pump? You should have had a special tool, which also installs it too.
 
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:34 AM
  #12  
zpmps2's Avatar
zpmps2
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 412
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Franklin2
Hammering on the shaft can damage the pump. If it leaks or is worse than the old one, then you know what did it. How did you get the pulley off the old pump? You should have had a special tool, which also installs it too.
i did get it off w/ a tool but i couldnt figure out how to put it back on "im dumb is what my dad said" hopefully i didnt damage it after all it was 60 bucks

Taylor
 
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 12:56 AM
  #13  
marmonlj's Avatar
marmonlj
New User
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
the best way that i have found to put the pulley on is to find a bolt that will screw in the end of the shaft but before u screw the bolt in thread a nut up the bolt about half way then slide a washer on the bolt screw the bolt in and tighten down the nut with one wrench and hold the head of the bolt with another wrench. When u tighten down the nut the pulley will slide right on. When doing something like that u want a steady even pressure when putting them on. Thats one of the best ways i have found alot of time when u hammer on the pulley u can damage the pump pretty easy.
 
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 10:35 AM
  #14  
fatazz350's Avatar
fatazz350
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
i know this isn't my thread, but thanks anyway. great idea, don't think i would have thought of that. gonna file that in my tricks library.
 
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:38 PM
  #15  
Holmesuser01's Avatar
Holmesuser01
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,137
Likes: 2
From: Asheville, NC
Your dad says you are dumb? Well then, you came by it naturally, unfortunately.

You cant hammer the pulley onto the pump. It has to go on straight, or it will wobble.

Get yourself a Chilton or Haynes manual for your truck. They explain alot.

Your auto parts store probably has a very well-worn pulley removal/installation tool. They should have shown you how it worked before you left the store.

Best of luck with your truck.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:40 AM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE