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Old 08-07-2007, 10:35 PM
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Help replacing fuel pump on 1964 F100

Just starting to do some work on a '64 F100 that belonged to my Grandparents. This is my first time taking on a vehicle restoration project and I have alot to learn. The fuel pump is leaking pretty badly so removed it and found a replacement at Napa. I want to be sure of something before adding the new part since this is my first time replacing it. How can I be certain that the pump arm is positioned correctly when I attach it to the engine? I want to avoid any kind of mistake that may damage the part once it's all put back together and I fire it up.
 
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As long as the pump slides in and bolt up easily, the pump arm wont be damaged. If you are having trouble getting the fuel pump in, rotate the engine a little by using the bolt at the end of your crankshaft pulley, and try again. The arm is activated by a piece called the fuel pump eccentric, which is a round metal piece that is connected to the camshaft. What moves the pump up and down is that the eccentric is offset, so when the camshaft spins the eccentric moves up and down instead of just in a circle, and that's what drives the fuel pump. Good luck with the truck! (And welcome to FTE by the way!)
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Help replacing fuel pump on 1963 F100

Well....I'm back...one broken fuel pump later. I'm a bit embarrassed to share what went wrong but if my experience and mistake can help someone avoid doing the same thing then I guess it's worth sharing.
The leaking pump that was on the engine was positioned in such a way that the beer can sized filter was pointing down. I assumed that the new part had to be installed in the same orientation. I had alot of trouble trying to get the cam in a position that I could actually fit the new pump arm underneath it (filter pointing down). Once I got it int position (with some muscle) and began fastening the bolts the pump arm broke. SOFAB! The parts place was king enough to replace it free of charge. I mucked around with the new one until it occurred to me that maybe I had to install it upside down (the filter pointing up). When I held it to the side of the engine this way the arm went right in (resting on top of the cam insead of underneath) and the bolt holes lined right up. I haven't attached it yet...partially cause I don't wanna break another pump...but mainly cause I wanted to feedback as to whether or not this sounds right that the new pump would install "upside" down as I described.

Any input y'all can provide regarding the position of the pump when installing will be appreciated.

Finally...after decoding my VIN...turns out the truck is a '63 not a '64. My Grandparents bought it in '64.
 

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Old 08-15-2007, 03:37 AM
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Dont trust the vin decoder on this site,....

You did not mention if the engine was a 223 I6 or a 292 Y block?

Before firing the engine change the oil, If the diaphram was torn and leaking it surely will have leaked gasoline into the crankcase. Gas an bearings dont mix...

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Old 08-15-2007, 04:23 AM
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1961/64 292 / 1965/72 352/360/390 / 1964/72 330/361/391: All use the SAME fuel pump: D2TZ-9350-A

Inside the fuel pump cartridge fuel filter: C4AZ-9365-A (Motorcraft FG-1)
 

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I could be wrong but the filter housing should be at the bottom for sediment to collect. If it doesn't go on in this position the pump drive mechanism inside the engine may be damaged or you have the wrong pump style altogether. I would look inside the fuel pump hole with a mirror and flashlight to make sure everything checks good and cross reference the part # Bill gave you with the one you have. Call Napa and they can verify it for you.
 
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If I can't trust the VIN decoder on the site where can I get an accurate decoding?

The engine is a V6 (262 I believe).
 
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He was refering to the automated VIN decoder found on one of the tabs. Not someone who personally types in your info.
 
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I understood that he was referring to the automated VIN decoder (which is what I used). I'm just wondering where I can get it decoded correctly.
 
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Post it and we can do it the old fashioned way..look it up in the factory manual...


We need to know if it is the inline six I6 223 CI or I6 262 CI as each was offered in 64 for the F100. The Only V8 option was a 292.

The pump for a 262 differes from a 223.

They also mount different six cyl vs eight cyl.

I have seen bolth the upside down canister type and the downside up canister.

Obviously you are very new to old fords as you call it a V6.

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Inline six 262 according to the FTE VIN decoder. My "I" and "V" keys are vnierted on my keyboard Garbz ; ) ....it wasn't already obvious that I'm new to this since I'm having this much trouble replacing a simple fuel pump.

I also made a correction to the year model in one of my posts above...it appears to be a '63 rather than a '64

Here's the VIN: F10BR473102

Thanks for all the input fellas.
 
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Inline six 262 according to the FTE VIN decoder. My "I" and "V" keys are vnierted on my keyboard Garbz ; ) ....it wasn't already obvious that I'm new to this since I'm having this much trouble replacing a simple fuel pump.

I also made a correction to the year model in one of my posts above...it appears to be a '63 rather than a '64 No, it's NOT! It's a 1964.

Here's the VIN: F10BR473102

Thanks for all the input fellas.
Lets see what the parts catalog decodes your VIN to.

F10 = F100 2WD

B = 262 1V

R = San Jose CA Assembly Plant

473102 = 1964

>>>1964 serial number range: 445,001 - 580,000 <<<
 
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I'm looking at a picture of the 262 in the '63 sevice manual and the fuel pump is definately "can up".
 
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Yep... 262 is a 64 only in the F100.

Actually the most desirable six to have in it. The follower runs off of a lobe on the camshaft.

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To sum up then...
- Pickup is a 1964 (Inline 6 / 262)
- 1963 service manual shows the pump installed on the 262 in a "can up" orientation.

You guys are a wealth of knowledge...I appreciate all your input.

I'm gonna giver-a-go tonight and install that puppy "can up" (upside-down pump arm resting on top of the eccentric).
 


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