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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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Question-How do I kill it?

I have a question I have been wondering about. My 84 E-350 6.9l C6 has never failed to shut off, but can it fail? If if fails, how do I kill it? My MB diesel has a mechanical shut-off if I should loose vacuum. (MB used vacuum to operate almost everything.) I don't even know if the kill solenoid can fail to shut off or not, but what if it stuck open.

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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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If you can't turn off the fuel, you can block the air going into the engine.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by schlager
I have a question I have been wondering about. My 84 E-350 6.9l C6 has never failed to shut off, but can it fail? If if fails, how do I kill it? My MB diesel has a mechanical shut-off if I should loose vacuum. (MB used vacuum to operate almost everything.) I don't even know if the kill solenoid can fail to shut off or not, but what if it stuck open.

Thanks for any info on this.
Pinch the rubber hose to the lift pump off, or cut it with a knife. It will shut it down quick, its much easier than trying to block off the intake.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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While I imagine it is possible for the solenoid to fail, it is sprung to the off setting, so it isn't real likely to be a problem, rather more trouble to get it to run. Haven't heard of one that wouldn't shut off, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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If you hold open the air bleed plunger valve at the top of the filter, or even screw out the plunger valve, it will starve the injector pump of fuel. Just make sure you have a container to catch the fuel from the valve outlet as it will come out with volume and pressure.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Thanks all.

I was wondering about this because my MB fails open. The wonders of running everything on vacuum when vacuum isn't a natural thing for diesels. The MB has a manual shut-off I guess because the normal shut-off is vacuum operated. I was thinking of putting a ball valve shutoff in line but it looks very unlikely that the unit will fail to shut off.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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According to my Haynes manual, at idle if you pinch off the return line out of the IP it will kill the engine as well!
 
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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True, that should work...
 
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if you need to shut down the engine forget using a rag. it can suck it through. i have heard of a truck revving up behind a leaky propane truck. very rare but not unheard of. IIRC any diesel engine that is around gas lines or something like that has a metal flap that can be dropped to shut off the incoming air.
 
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