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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Trying to stop an oil leak at the downshift linkage. I have had the transmission guy replace the whole linkage and it still leaks. Is there a secret to the o ring replacement? Is there a special one or more than one. My wife picked up the trans and he gave her a bunch of gaskets and o rings left over I only get home on weekends so I haven't been able to talk to the trans guy to ask the proper proceedure. Anyone know the secret? Thanks The 49 is comming along.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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If it's anything like the C6 you have to drain it remove the pan and valve body, remove the external linkage, push the shaft in far eough to replace the O-ring then reverse the process. Or have a talk with the guy who rebuilt it, should be a warranty fix.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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I'm fighting the same problem on a c4 in a 66 Mustang, I removed the nuetral saftey switch and kickdown linkage and replaced the Oring..it still leaks, and I haven't been able to locate a drawing of this area to confirm if there is an inner seal on the trans body like the C6 yet..will be intressted to see what you find out
 
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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I have an exploded diagram, I'll look for it.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cobraguy
If it's anything like the C6 you have to drain it remove the pan and valve body, remove the external linkage, push the shaft in far eough to replace the O-ring then reverse the process. Or have a talk with the guy who rebuilt it, should be a warranty fix.
Yep. Same deal as on my C4
 
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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it has been years since I was in one, but I thought there was just an "O" ring.

You have to be careful and get the right one or it wil leak though. They are not marked, so I typically compared the original one to all the little ones in the kit to get the right one. It is guess work unless you have done a few. LOL
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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I have an exploded diagram, I'll look for it.
thanks, that would be helpful, I found one but it only shows the internal and no view of the shift linkage area, so I'm still confused if theres one or two Orings
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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There is a small O-ring that goes into a groove on the inside of the main shifter shaft. The main shifter shaft goes through a lip seal that is pressed into the transmission body. The O-ring size has to be correct or it will leak. Make sure the end of the kickdown shaft is really clean before you push it in or you'll drag crap that will damage the O-ring into the main shaft bore.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cobraguy
There is a small O-ring that goes into a groove on the inside of the main shifter shaft. The main shifter shaft goes through a lip seal that is pressed into the transmission body. The O-ring size has to be correct or it will leak. Make sure the end of the kickdown shaft is really clean before you push it in or you'll drag crap that will damage the O-ring into the main shaft bore.
thanks, that helped, mine must be leaking at the trans body, not major, just small drips, just enough to make me mad
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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There is no pressure behind these guys so they'll just be annoyance leaks
 
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There is no pressure behind these guys so they'll just be annoyance leaks
between the two trucks and the mustang I have three annoyances..LOL they all leak somewhre
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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What no wife and kids
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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What no wife and kids
I'll revise that to seven..LOL
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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Smile C-4 Transmission leak

I checked with about 6 transmission shops today and found out that a new upgrade o ring is available for the downshift linkage it seems that the previous o ring was not very reliable. The new one has concave sides and a square sholder and is said to be a vast improvement over the old one. I'll try it and see what happens.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hiball3985
I'm fighting the same problem on a c4 in a 66 Mustang, I removed the nuetral saftey switch and kickdown linkage and replaced the Oring..it still leaks, and I haven't been able to locate a drawing of this area to confirm if there is an inner seal on the trans body like the C6 yet..will be intressted to see what you find out
There are TWO different seals.

C7AZ-7B498-A .. Manual Control Lever Oil Seal ~ Fits: 1964/72 ~ All C4's.

D5AZ-7B498-A .. Manual Control Lever Oil Seal. ~ Fits 1973/80's ~ All C4's.

The is the only seal shown on the manual control lever. It fits at the shoulder of the lever.

Why do these new seals start leaking? They are no good. Here's the scenario: These seals come in a plastic bag, package of 10. The bag once opened, can't be resealed. Not a lot of these seals are sold, so they lay in a drawer for months, even years. They are then exposed to the air, and over time shrivel up. They look new, but...


Why aren't many of these seals sold? Because they also come in the transmission overhaul kits, so the individual seals don't see too many sales.
 

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