But that is just it. If I could pin it down and say I will go to this level and stop there, life would be simpler. Problem is that originally, this time last year, I had the truck since Mar and I decided that I would do only exhaust and chip. Look at my list now. I said I would stop after big oil a couple months ago. Still, would you want to bet I will be happy and not want a bigger turbo? Larger sticks.

What do I do with my truck? Well, it is a daily driver and a dog hauler and performs tow duties. What am I going to do with my truck? Probably not more than that as far as it goes. Mod wise, it depends on when the money runs out or the wife figures I have spent too much on it. Higher performance down the road? Well, my brain says "no" but my heart says "HELL YES". Who will win? Hard to say what my priorities are at the time.

Ford has cheaped out on things in the past. That is why I am not so certain of the 6.4 quality. Now, if it were a PI made 6.4 or some other reputable aftermarket brand, I might be more confident. Ford gave us the diode in 01. Ford also gave us the gold coolant because it made financial sense to make it a fleet thing and not because it gave the best protection and had all the necessary chemicals in it. Ford hasn't always given us the best of things. So, if it were made for say TCI, PI, etc, etc, I would give the 6.4 TC the benefit of the doubt. Coming from a Ford store, I am skeptical.

 

Don't know what to tell you. I liked the PI stuff because they gave you a free restall within 2 years of purchase. Came in real handy when I changed my cam in my other car. I wouldn't hesitate to use PI or ATS.

 

Oh im not disputing the quality of the PI convertor. It worked flawlessly when I had the trans rebuilt the first go round. Of course that was at 250hp, lol. It handled the 325hp well but once we started hittin over 400hp it started slippin bad. We'll see how the ATS unit compares.

Cowboy Steve

 

I'd be real curious to see if it was a fluke. JT_Harvey had a problem with his unit and BTS towed it back to the shop to fix it. Could you both be the "oddballs" or is it just good up to say 400HP?

 

Jt had a PI convertor as well? They're only a single disk billet unit and haulin horses across the states with dang near 500hp might have some influence on it.

Cowboy Steve

 

I belive the PI Staillion is a billet triple disc convertor. Is your purple(i think thats teh color) if not you might have gotten screwed on it.

 

According to the writeups it is a multi disk unit

 

Yeah mine was purple. I thpught it was a single disc unit.

Cowboy Steve

 

Steve, that sounds like the same convertor BTS installs. I like it when hooked up to the trailer and it locks, and does it lock with a good load. Hopefully it will work as good for you as it does for me.

 

what convertor are you talkin about Totin? The PI convertor is what I used to have. I know will be runnin a triple-lok convertor from ATS. I roached the PI convertor

Cowboy Steve

 

IF it is a PI unit, it should have a 2 yr warranty, right?

 

yep, which expired already, lol. Just my luck to.

Cowboy Steve

 

Isnt the PI convertor what Brian installs? Now you have me thinkin' and its getting late, I will have to check tomorrow.

 

Steve, have them replace/clean the hell out of the cooler, or it will put all that clutch/metal back into the convertor, and that is a very high dollar convertor too mess up..I would replace the cooler and not even take a chance if I was doing the job..

Aklim, BTS trans are excellent, The 6.4 convertor is bad azz..Have you been in a torque shift trans truck..The trans is always in the right gear..And get this the convertor doesnt even lock until you get into 5TH gear, MOST of the time it is running unlocked..

 

Not really much experience but been test driving them for a bit here and there when I have time to play. I might agree with you that the 6.4 converter is a good design. My point is that I am highly skeptical when it comes to OEM parts durability under more than normal fire. When I buy a car these days, I look at is as a PLATFORM to start work. I am NOT against the 6.4 TC per se. Just skeptical when it comes to OEM parts holding up. After all, Ford gave us that wonderful diode in the 01 and the dead head fuel system and the band aid instead of fixing it right.