Two air show tragedies
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Two air show tragedies
Even more gut-wrenching when you learn two pilots were killed...
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It was windy at that time, but what it is sounding like if one of the copters lost visual of the other and drifted into it. If you look at the pictures of them just after 15 (Black) is nose down and 3 (white ball) has been chopped up.
A person on the ground says that 3 was in a hover and 15 was moving to a different position, but we will have to wait until the NTSB gives their report.
Aerobatics is such a thin line and sometimes it is crossed. The pilot in Dayton will have been killed due to extreme G loads from the crash.
It has been a sad week....sad
Phoenix
Oshkosh
Daytona
Here is a link to the information to date
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/94069
or
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...n0729side.html
A person on the ground says that 3 was in a hover and 15 was moving to a different position, but we will have to wait until the NTSB gives their report.
Aerobatics is such a thin line and sometimes it is crossed. The pilot in Dayton will have been killed due to extreme G loads from the crash.
It has been a sad week....sad
Phoenix
Oshkosh
Daytona
Here is a link to the information to date
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/94069
or
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...n0729side.html
Last edited by Aztrainer; Jul 29, 2007 at 03:07 PM.
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I am an airshow addict (seen over 50). I always have a nagging fear in the back of my head about these tragedies occurring but have been not witnessed any.
I hear a Blue Angel pilot say, "Our flying is not dangerous, just inherently unforgiving." My prayers go out to all the lost and injured pilots and their families.
I hear a Blue Angel pilot say, "Our flying is not dangerous, just inherently unforgiving." My prayers go out to all the lost and injured pilots and their families.
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I am the same way. You sometime wonder if they push the envelope too much.
Think of the past crashes, other than the P-51’s at Oshkosh most occur coming out of the loop. I remember reading a story where an F-18 pilot did the same thing and hit the ground at the bottom of his loop and they measured the G-load at 38 and were amazed that he lived, but he was two inches shorter.
Remember this crash….Thank God he ejected when he did…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD3fdKmMdQM
Think of the past crashes, other than the P-51’s at Oshkosh most occur coming out of the loop. I remember reading a story where an F-18 pilot did the same thing and hit the ground at the bottom of his loop and they measured the G-load at 38 and were amazed that he lived, but he was two inches shorter.
Remember this crash….Thank God he ejected when he did…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD3fdKmMdQM
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[QUOTE=Aztrainer]I am the same way. You sometime wonder if they push the envelope too much.
just like in vehicles, my pops fly and hes says most crashes are operator error.
pilot said it right flying aint dangerous just inherently unforgiving
just like in vehicles, my pops fly and hes says most crashes are operator error.
pilot said it right flying aint dangerous just inherently unforgiving
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A great aerobatics pilot was Art Scholl.
Lost his life during the filming of the movie "Top Gun".
Another one is Bob Hoover.
He said it best about aerobatic pilots.
Listen to his comment, and amazing video on stopped engine aerobatics.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft
Lost his life during the filming of the movie "Top Gun".
Another one is Bob Hoover.
He said it best about aerobatic pilots.
Listen to his comment, and amazing video on stopped engine aerobatics.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft
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Scholl was an intavator all the way...
Hoover flying the Shrike Commander and doing it with the engines out....
Here you go...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBca...elated&search=
Hoover flying the Shrike Commander and doing it with the engines out....
Here you go...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBca...elated&search=
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Oppsie, I did a BAD...
How about this part...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uw2qPLEgK...elated&search=
Coffee or Tea?
Or F-86
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TRt6UnNzR...elated&search=
How about this part...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uw2qPLEgK...elated&search=
Coffee or Tea?
Or F-86
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TRt6UnNzR...elated&search=
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