I guess I tend to agree with 6686, I mean, it's interesting to look at, I can appreciate the attention to detail, but really, what's the use? Car shows is about it, sorry, bought mine to drive and enjoy, but, to each his own!

 

A 4-link suspension can be made to work very well; unfortunately it looks like this X is ONLY for show, as the deflection of the bars and mounts will make those axles walk out sideways from under the truck if it ever took a corner. The subframe under the center of the truck would need to be wider, so those upper mounts could provide some lateral location to the axle.

 

This was 1 of the first things I noticed about this truck. There is no way that the dual triangulated 4 link is going to center that axle. It needs a trackbar (and a monster drop of 1 also . The other thing I noticed and don't particularly like is the painted inner fenders I LOVE monster trucks, but this one just doesn't do it for me.

Michael

 

Putting big tires on a vehicle and raising it that high adds dramatically to the strength and force of stresses coming in from road shocks.

Also substantially increases the liklyhood the vehicle will roll over. There is a site showing what happens when you roll an Excursion. To summarize, the sheet metal above the bottom of the window sill will offer about as much resistance to protect you from decapitation...as a well-starched bed sheet.

I have a theory that you can tell how big and long a male thinks his "you know what" is by

1) how much noise his vehicle makes and
2) how much he has raised it off its factory/production riding height.

The more the noise (loud mufflers, etc) , and the higher the "lift"...the smaller the.....

 

Opinions are like asses, everyone has one, and most of them stink....

Using your theory, what does it mean for my wife who has a wrangler with 6inches of lift, loud stereo, big tires and loud pipes...

...does she have a small va-jay-jay?

not trying to start anything, but you have my stinkin opinion...

 

Whats this website your talking about?

 

Im not sure but it seems since the late 70s every ford F-Series/bronco/X (maybe other SUVs too but these i know about) can not support the weight of the vehicle in a rollover, it flattens the top like a porrly built deck of playing cards in many instances. I remember seeing a news report about the bronco's and F series pickups collapsing easily when dropped on its roof for a short distance in the air. Maybe 6-12". The mustangs have failed fords internal tests for the amount of fuel spilled in an accident, and doors being pinned shut in an accident since 94.

I thought with the new trucks it was fixed. I guess iw as wrong?

 

Find the web-site that deals with what happens to Ford products when they are "rolled" - there is one specifically for the Excursion-sorry, I dont have it in my new computer.

I recall decided I want to be pretty damn scared on how I drive that thing. In the post-accident photos I saw, even moderate speed roll-overs caused the entire roof to collapse down to the bottom of the window-sills. At higher speeds, the thing just comes apart.

C'mon guys..dont get me wrong - I am not a "purist". I would be the first to modify (and have) a vehicle to improve its utility for the tasks it will be assigned. I know it is considered "macho" to "raise" a vehicle - some guys do this because the primary purpose of the particular vehicle they are "raising" is going to be rock climbing. The guys I know who go rock climbing, would not use their modified vehicles on the street for daily drivers, because of the obvious dangers when you change the suspension geometry that much. They ARMOR their axles and differntial cases, incidentally. And the guys I know have installed "roll cages", so that if they do go over (and rolling over is a fact of life if you are "into" severe rock climbing) they get to walk away.

But given how dangerous Ford products have PROVEN themselves to be in a roll-over, ESPECIALLY so in the case of the Excursion, I think it MOST unwise to "raise" them.

 

Heres a website dedicate dto lawsuits againt ford. Excursion has a couple paragraohs.

http://www.vehicle-injuries.com/ford...on-lawsuit.htm

X mentioned again by pansy automotive journalist.

http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/saf...1/article.html

This article basically slams the excursions safety with safety rating many times higher then other SUVs.

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/auto...85/safest-suvs

 

I have known the owner personally for many years and at the tender age of 32, has accumulated more wealth on his own than this entire forum can generate. This is one of many vehicles and his brother have built and for those backyard engineers, the truck is highly engineerd by one up offroad and rides incredible, lifts the front wheels and corners quite well. Vince builds nothing that is half assed and not engineered correctly...the steering system alone is insane and he did it to stay away from the cheap version of rams. Even FOMOCO was blown away and this truck even drew the heavy attention of Bob Chandler/Bogfoots crew at SEMA. So no, he is not an idiot with money and this truck is not the flimsy POS you uneducated discuss. With regard to the painted fender wells, this truck is torn down to raw frame regularly in his personal repair shop that is 100% self contained in all aspects. His own crew that just makes trucks for him and along side him.

His hobby, his money..the guy deserves the respect for his ability, creativity and engineering ability. The tires are now 60s and prior to the change with help of prototypes from the manufacturer, he wasdriving it from NJ to Texas and cruising at 90 plus with his wife...I received a phone call at 90 mph asking about a slight shimmy which ended up being a rear carrier bearing which he replaced in Tx and then built into the system oversized carriers...these days the X is trailered in his Tractor/Trailer.

 

Tell your buddy that he has one badass Excursion, he did a damn good job.

 

That x seems awesome. He has 60 inch tires? How big is the lift?

 

Cuddos to him. Thats one assume Excursion he has
Nick

 

For those that think it will roll easily, go here: http://oneupoffroad.com/trucks/carrabbascreations.html
scroll to the bottom. Fork lift has the front right tire lifted to 3 feet and the X is still well within its range, and this is old stuff before Vince went further. The truck has been driven by various manufacturers and are floored at how well it drives and especially the cornering. One Up is very well known for their engineering with total usability. The trucks are at the engineers home and where driven all the way back to NJ from Oregon and as you can see, the X has grown all around...

For the peanut brain that made the grossly envious comment about guys and bigger trucks and small appendages, you are truly sad to comment on one of the nicest guys anywhere. He avoids interviews, articles and th like because it is about the creation and engineering. He has done so much for so many and is a true ambassador of modifieds. He has a parking lot and shop filled with slammed Range Rovers, BMWs, lifted trucks, X's, he has two new X's in storage for the past several years...untouched and zero mileage. This X is way deep into 6 figures, the blue paint is a one of a kind from Germany that Dupont is trying to get a hold off and is just a very small indicator of how far Vince will go to make his stuff nice. Vince is obssesive that style must meet function regardless of how insane it is. This is the same guy that has underground thermal heating for his dog kennels so they do not have to endure the cold and snow and that covers over 10,000 sqft. Even his kennels are ultra tricked out in custom powder coat and stainless.

The 60s I mispoke, they are 54s currently and I believe working towards the 60s and the last of the mods.

So until you know a person, don't bother commenting on them unless you know otherwise. A great guy, ultra friendly and will give you the shirt off of his back literally and at 6'2 240 pounds, he matches his trucks...so go and tell him how small his unit is clown. He will show you why he is in the armed security business and is one of the best.

With regard to the X and rollovers, they are weak and crease badly mid cabin...seen that one first hand with my friends in Pebble Beach. Simple rollover on a slow turn that he over corrected on, struck a berm off camber and onto the lid it went. I was amazed at how poorly it handled the incident.

Bob-
wcrotts.com

 

That truck is crazy. It looks like the forklift is going to tip forward haha. When r u guys getting bigger tires for it?