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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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In 2004, my sister in law bought a new Focus in oregon. Now she's stationed in Colorado. She has noticed a huge power loss since moving there. Ford told her there was nothing they could do about it. BS! What should/can we do?

Aren't ECM's supposed to adjust to higher altitudes to compensate for less air?

If it helps, another family member has a Mazda tribute which broke down for a similar reason - something about the computer not adjusting the fuel/air mixture.

It's a fully loaded 5 door wagon, not the long one.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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They, Ford should be able to reprogram the puter to compinsate for the lack of
oxygen there. By the way were in colo are ya?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Ford told her there was nothing they could do about it. BS! What should/can we do?
Sorry, but that's the way internal combustion engines work. There are fewer molecules of air per volume, and the engine compensates by injecting less fuel. Less air + less fuel = less power.

The ECM *is* adjusting for the altitude. It's doing exactly what it's supposed to be doing.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Sorry, but that's the way internal combustion engines work. There are fewer molecules of air per volume, and the engine compensates by injecting less fuel. Less air + less fuel = less power.
True statement. This is why they altitude correct drag racing numbers. Even 1000 horsepower cars lose power in higher altitudes. http://www.hardtail.com/techtips/altitude.html
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Any naturally aspirated engine relies on atmospheric pressure to push air into it- the less atmosphere above you, the less pressure pushing in, the less output. If the computer wasn't compensating, the car would run very rich, foul plugs, etc. The only thing the dealership can do is reprogram if the car has a check engine light coming on.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Roger that. I wasn't sure.

She's in Colorado Springs.
 
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