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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Misfire question

I have done some searching and think that I have a good grasp on this issue.

Recently I have found my truck - 2003 supercrew lariat 5.4 - to misfire. This ONLY happens when there is some load on the truck like going up hill and WOT in 2nd gear. It only starts at high RPM too, like starting at 4500 or so. If I keep in it it will continue to misfire through third gear.

I read on a thread that this may be from an EGR issue - like clogged ports. When I pull the vacuum off of the top of the EGR nothing happens - this leads me to believe that it may be plugged - will this cause my problem?

The only codes I have been getting is random misfire as per my diablosport predator. This issue happens with the tune and without. I am currently driving it back tro stock till I figure this out.

I would like to get this fixed asap as I have a good 7 hour each way trip planned for early August and don't want to be left stranded 7 hours away from civilization.

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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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The EGR doesn't function at WOT so I'd doubt that is a problem. Sounds like you may have a coil or plug breaking down. Perhaps even a partially plugged fuel filter.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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I have a 2000 f150 5.4 had the same trouble, took it to autozone and they checked it in the parking lot for free. Told me it was the number 3 coil pack. $56 bucks and it did the trick.
End of trouble.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Hmm, is there a way that I can test the coil packs?

Today I changed out my fuel filter and all of the spark plugs (very tedious work.... for a first timer for me on this truck).

Could this be a fuel issue? like my pump going out? it only starts at 4500 rpm in 2nd gear. There was no difference after changing the filter and plugs... The truck does seem kinda sluggish all around, but really noticable in 2nd gear, sometimes I can barely get out of the gear because it runs out of power and starts misfiring.

Still the only code I get is a "Random Misfire Detected"...

Does the PCM monitor fuel pressure? Can it be viewed using the trip counter like other functions?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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take it to autozone. they will test it for free
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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need a gauge to test for fuel line pressure but I don't think thats it
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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We don't have any Auto Zone's up here that I know of unfortuneatly otherwise I would - the price sure is right
 
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sorry where from
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Are there any larger auto parts chains up there? Some may check codes for free.
Did you use dielectric grease on the coil boots when you changed the plugs?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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No one checks codes for free that I know of. I just use my tuner to check them. All that I get is a P0300 - Random Misfire Detected with it.

I used antiseize on the plugs and dielectric grease on the boots.

http://www3.telus.net/jmarling/plugs/

Here are some pics of the plugs, maybe they will tell the story better then I am. Some looked not too bad and some were just gross. Any way to tell if they were original?

By looking at the pics do they describe what may be going on inside my engine. Soon it will going in to Ford to check it out if I can't get this fixed on my own.

The truck has 138000 KM on it now, I bought it with 110000.

I'm thinking a fuel problem or maybe some coils are starting to act up...
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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So I think that my problem is due to coils. I will have the dealer do a coil stress test this next weekend to find out. Is it worth it to stick with Motorcraft coils or do aftermarket ones work just as well.

The dealers around here want about $180 per coil, I can get some aftermarket ones from Summitracing for much cheaper, they have Jacobs, Accell and their own brand of Summit ones. They seem to be $25-$35 a piece. Should I just order some up? or do they not work as well as Ford ones? I need to have this fixed up within 2 weeks.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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I paid $56 for after market and it works perfect !! Heck with the dealer parts.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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Cam position sensor or plugup, low fuel- less than 1/8 tank, stuck open EGR.
Its affecting all cylinders for code 300.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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I took it to the dealer to have it checked out. my friend works there so we hooked it up to their computer system. Everything seemed to look fine, all the sensors were within range. But when we did a power balance test #1 and #5 would drop off a little. They did not seem to be too worried about it. They seemed to think that since everything checked out that it may be just carboned up and suggested doing a full cleaning using a flush system they have for the fuel injectors and such.

I think that once my set of 8 coils get in from Summit I will replace #1 and 5 and see how it runs. I really want to get this fixed in the next few days as I am going on a 7-8 hour trip each way on thursday and would like it to be running optimally for it.
 
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