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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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A few questions

I have a 68 camper special and it has the dual gas tanks, my problem is that I have the switch on the floor but i do not have the switch on the dash to switch the tanks so it will read on the gas gauge. the gas gauge will work with the in cab tank but not the frame tank, did some trucks not come with the dash switch or did it some how get removed from my truck also I am having dual exhaust put on my truck with flowmaster 40 series mufflers, right now the exhaust come out infront of the tires, is the factory? I cannot decide if I should have it come out infront of the tires of behind the tires what do you guys like better I am not sure
 
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 68bluebeast
I have a 68 camper special and it has the dual gas tanks, my problem is that I have the switch on the floor but i do not have the switch on the dash to switch the tanks so it will read on the gas gauge. the gas gauge will work with the in cab tank but not the frame tank, did some trucks not come with the dash switch or did it some how get removed from my truck also I am having dual exhaust put on my truck with flowmaster 40 series mufflers, right now the exhaust come out infront of the tires, is the factory? I cannot decide if I should have it come out infront of the tires of behind the tires what do you guys like better I am not sure
D3TZ-9A050-B .. Switch Assembly-Gas Tank Selector ~ Used with auxillary tank. The toggle switch is fitted to a L shaped bracket that bolted to the bottom of the dash...left side of the steering column. In addition to the switch, there was a chrome bezel that screwed to the switch, marked: Aux Fuel Tank. The same switch was used 1967/72 & 1975/79 (NOT 1973/74). >> Email me off FTE, and I'll scan the parts catalog illustration, and send it back to you. <<


D3TZ-9A050-B .. Fuel Tank Selector Switch ~ STILL available from Ford ~ List price $36.98


D0TZ-9275-D .. Fuel Tank Sending Unit-Auxillary Tank ~ STILL available from Ford.

The fuel tank sender float may be the problem. It's made from two pieces of copper soldered together. Solder breaks down, fuel seeps in, float sinks to the bottom of the fuel tank. The float and related parts are also still available from Ford. The floats are the same for both tanks, in cab and auxillary. Both senders ALSO have a plastic mesh filter screen that by now, prolly needs changing.


C0AZ-9202-B .. Fuel Tank Sender Float

C0AF-9276-A .. Fuel Tank Sender Gasket

D1AZ-9A011-A .. Plastic Mesh Filter Screen

C1TF-9276-B = This fuel tank sender gasket is used for the in cab tank only 1957/72.

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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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As far as I know the factory exhaust came out behind the tires.As far as where to put it depends largely on how much noise you want to hear in the cab.If you bring them out in front of the tires the exhaust will be more noticable to you.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The fuel tank sender float may be the problem. It's made from two pieces of copper soldered together. Solder breaks down, fuel seeps in, float sinks to the bottom of the fuel tank. The float and related parts are also still available from Ford. The floats are the same for both tanks, in cab and auxillary. Both senders ALSO have a plastic mesh filter screen that by now, prolly needs changing.


C0AZ-9202-B .. Fuel Tank Sender Float

C0AF-9276-A .. Fuel Tank Sender Gasket

D1AZ-9A011-A .. Plastic Mesh Filter Screen
I called Ford the other day looking for a float and the guy could not find a number and said without it, he couldn't even look it up. Solved with a plastic pill bottle for now and I wound up ordering one from a supplier for $5 which should be here in a day or two.

I would like to know of this "Plastic Mesh Filter Screen" of which you speak of? In cab tank?

Are you talking about the black rubber cup type thing that goes over the sending unit arm and around the float end?

If not, where is it and what does it look like? Because when I took my "sinker" (should be float) out the other day to see if that was the problem, I saw no screen of any type and my tank has never been opened before.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jh225
I called Ford the other day looking for a float and the guy could not find a number and said without it, he couldn't even look it up.
GEEZ All one has to do is look at ANY fuel tank sender, illustrated in the 100's of different fuel systems. There it is ~ And they call themselves partsmen HAH!! IMHO = He didn't even look...he just shined you on. Sadly, that happens all the time today.
Solved with a plastic pill bottle for now and I wound up ordering one from a supplier for $5 which should be here in a day or two. Well, you now have the correct part number (C0AZ-9202-B), and it IS still available. The same float fits 1957/79 for ALL car & truck senders.

I would like to know of this "Plastic Mesh Filter Screen" of which you speak of? In cab tank? All Ford fuel tanks car/truck ~ front/rear, under the frame ~ everywhere = from 1964/79 = D1AZ-9A011-A

Are you talking about the black rubber cup type thing that goes over the sending unit arm and around the float end? Yes, slides onto the tube. Both white and black colors were used.

If not, where is it and what does it look like? Because when I took my "sinker" (should be float) out the other day to see if that was the problem, I saw no screen of any type and my tank has never been opened before.
more info coming...brb

EDIT: I was going to list the price of the float, but Ford's website parts locater is down (again ).

Don't forget to replace the sending unit gasket = there are two types. Sending unit fits into tank with twist off retainer: C0AF-9276-A / Sending unit bolts to tank: C1TF-9276-B


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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
All one has to do is look at ANY fuel tank sender, illustrated in the 100's of different fuel systems. There it is ~ And they call themselves partsmen HAH!! IMHO = He didn't even look...he just shined you on. Sadly, that happens all the time today.
I told the so called parts guy that they any float form the mid 50's to mid 70's would probably work and that if he had one, I could match it up. He said "They might be the same but I am not sure, and either way, I would have to order one because we don't stock any"

Quality Ford dealer, huh?

As far as the mesh filter, what exactly is it supposed to filter? It is just a piece of rubber that slips over one side of the float. Heck, I don't even see the point of it being there in the first place. Mine looked just fine, so I don't need to replace it, just wondering what it does.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jh225
I told the so called parts guy that they any float form the mid 50's to mid 70's would probably work and that if he had one, I could match it up. He said "They might be the same but I am not sure, and either way, I would have to order one because we don't stock any"

Quality Ford dealer, huh?

As far as the mesh filter, what exactly is it supposed to filter? It is just a piece of rubber that slips over one side of the float. Heck, I don't even see the point of it being there in the first place. Mine looked just fine, so I don't need to replace it, just wondering what it does.
The plastic (it's not rubber) mesh filter slips over the end of the pickup tube, not the float.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The plastic (it's not rubber) mesh filter slips over the end of the pickup tube, not the float.
OK, then we are talking about different items.

On my float there is a rubber basket shaped piece that slips over one half of the float and is held in place by the float arm. Don't know what its purpose is, but it may be to ensure the float stays put on the arm.

I would think the filter you describe is sort of like a filter that goes on a lawnmower carb pick up tube.

I do not have one (at least attached to the sending unit, so I guess it is in the tank somewhere. I will have to check into that. At least I now have a part number for it thanks to you.

I REALLY wish I had an illustrated parts book for this truck.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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On the '68 in cab fuel tank the fuel pick up tube does not enter the tank at the fuel sender. I enters at a seperate location, hence no filter on the sending unit. This type of filter is most often found on fuel injected engines.

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Originally Posted by 360FE
On the '68 in cab fuel tank the fuel pick up tube does not enter the tank at the fuel sender. It enters at a seperate location, hence no filter on the sending unit. This type of filter is most often found on fuel injected engines. No, it's not...EFI uses a completely different filter. I spent 35 years as a Ford partsman. I KNOW the difference.
-Will
The plastic mesh filter screen (D1AZ-9A011-A) was not used on trucks after 1979. Therefore, it was never used on EFI engines. The filter screen that fits the 1964/82 cars and 1964/79 trucks is one piece of hard round molded plastic, the end of which has a mesh filter. It slides over the end of the pickup tube. It's not the sock type of filter used after 1979. In-Cab tank senders 1957 through 1974 (1961/74 = D7TZ-9275-G) do not have the pickup tube as part of the sender. ALL the other fuel senders do.


There are actually two different filter screens:

D1AZ-9A011-A Use with 3/8" outlet tube. Fits all of the trucks, and most of the cars, except what's listed next.

D1FZ-9A011-A Use with 5/16" outlet tube. Fits the following cars only: 1973/82 Mustang; 1973/80 Pinto/Bobcat; 1976/77 Maverick/Comet; 1975/80 Granada/Monarch; Lincoln Versailles; 1978/80 Fiesta.


Ford truck parts catalogs on CD 1948/56; 1957/63; 1964/72; 1973/79 Light Truck; 1973/79 Heavy Truck; 1980/91 Light Truck; 1980/91 Heavy Truck: hipoparts.com


Light Truck is F100 thru F500 / Heavy Truck is F600 and up.

NOTE: Bronco parts are in the passenger car parts catalogs thru 1979.

1966/72 Bronco parts are in the 1965/72 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalog.

1973/79 Bronco parts are in the 1973/79 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalog.

These are also available from hipoparts.com
 

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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
In-Cab tank senders 1957 through 1974 (1961/74 = D7TZ-9275-G) do not have the pickup tube as part of the sender.
OK, so the filter is on the pick up tube. Now without having looked for it yet
I would have to assume the tube is at the bottom of the tank, no?

Can it be seen or changed without removing the tank and draining all the fuel?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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OK, so the filter is on the pick up tube. Now without having looked for it yet
I would have to assume the tube is at the bottom of the tank, no?

Can it be seen or changed without removing the tank and draining all the fuel?
Regardless of what the parts catalog states about the filters, when it says ALL...it's not all, it's some.

If the fuel tank sender does not have the pickup tube attached, there's no filter screen anywhere else. It dawned on me earlier, that if there was one in the tank, how would you change it? How could you fit your hand into the tank??

So...there is NO filter on an in cab tank fuel tank sender till after 1974 (when the senders and tanks changed).


btw...the rubber boot on your old float was only installed at the factory, it wasn't available as a replacement part. Since these floats leaked like sieves, it's rare to see a float with the boot still on it today.


>> Fords on line parts locater website is back online. The float (C0AZ9202B) IS available, the list price is $6.36. If you buy one from FTE sponsor y2kfordparts or directfordparts, the net price is $4.50.


Mebbe someone oughtta inform that "whizbang" of a parts person at the "Quality" Ford dealer you went to...
 

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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Regardless of what the parts catalog states about the filters, when it says ALL...it's not all, it's some.

If the fuel tank sender does not have the pickup tube attached, there's no filter screen anywhere else. It dawned on me earlier, that if there was one in the tank, how would you change it? How could you fit your hand into the tank??

So...there is NO filter on an in cab tank fuel tank sender till after 1974 (when the senders and tanks changed).
Well, at least I now know I am not totally insane

On my tank, there is the following: (from memory)
4 screws holding the sender to the top of the tank
Gasket
Plain old rheostat type sender
Metal rod (arm) conecting the sender unit to the float
Float
Black rubber boot around the float



Originally Posted by NumberDummy
btw...the rubber boot on your old float was only installed at the factory, it wasn't available as a replacement part. Since these floats leaked like sieves, it's rare to see a float with the boot still on it today.
Actually, my boot is in vey good shape. Still see no need for one, but the factory installed it, so I will leave it.

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Mebbe someone oughtta inform that "whizbang" of a parts person at the "Quality" Ford dealer you went to...
You KNOW I will be paying the so called parts guy a visit to bust *****.
 
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