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From: Montana Territory
Originally Posted by powderburn2
Better read your owners manual, thats not what it says. Radial tires 20 or 25 years ago did have troubles with tread seperation and belt slip but modern radial tires do not have these problems.
Thanks... I've sold tires for quite a while... you are wrong... modern tires do have problems... I know for a fact that cross rotating increases the chances of radial tire pull...
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From: League City, TX
Originally Posted by Matts72
Thanks... I've sold tires for quite a while... you are wrong... modern tires do have problems... I know for a fact that cross rotating increases the chances of radial tire pull...
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There is plenty of research on the internet that you can look up on your own, I've taken training classes on the matter. I'm no longer in the tire business and no longer have access to the training materials.
Not rotating the tires is the most common cause of problems and most tire defects are experienced within 25 miles of purchase
I won't go into the total humor of trusting 1000's of automotive engineers... you are on your own.
Not rotating the tires is the most common cause of problems and most tire defects are experienced within 25 miles of purchase
I won't go into the total humor of trusting 1000's of automotive engineers... you are on your own.
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From: OKlahoma
Originally Posted by Matts72
Thanks... I've sold tires for quite a while... you are wrong... modern tires do have problems... I know for a fact that cross rotating increases the chances of radial tire pull...
I used to be in the tire business also. My dad was the tire shop manager at Montgomery ward for years and I worked there as a young lad and also went thru training to earn the title of Master Tire specialist. The older tires were more at risk by cross rotating. Modern radials are far Superior and as long as rotated as recommended the chances of "radial pull" (whatever that is) from cross rotating are Nil. Radials by nature can have belt slippage, The major culprits of belt slippage are negligent rotation schedules,hitting curbs and road damage along with improper balance, improper air pressure etc, etc.
Don't take my word on anything, Read your owners manual, It has the rotation info that is best for your vehicle.Follow it and you will be fine.
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You know I never could figure out why mechanics follow a different set of rules than those available to the owner via his/her manual. I had a Toyota dealer service manager tell me that "we don't do it like that" when I asked why his guy didn't rotate my damned spare like I told him to (and the owner's manual did as well). He claimed that would put an unevenly worn tire into the rotation, which is stupid because after four rotations I would have five evenly-worn tires! Which is worse, having a tire 5,000 miles less-worn, or one that is 35,000 miles newer when needed?
My conclusion is that Toyota would have preferred that I limp back to them for full set of tires if I had one blow-out. THAT is why people do not trust car dealerships.
[Before you say it, yes the spare had a matching rim.]
My conclusion is that Toyota would have preferred that I limp back to them for full set of tires if I had one blow-out. THAT is why people do not trust car dealerships.
[Before you say it, yes the spare had a matching rim.]
Last edited by Big Daddy 18C; Jul 8, 2007 at 12:53 AM.
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From: Ontario
I rotate my tires, front to back on the same side, and same on other side. I've always done it that way because I don't have a hoist and it's a lot easier doing it that way when you only have 1 side of the truck/car jacked up...lol
I've always gotten good mileage out of aftermarket tires doing it this way. Hey, I guess rotating tires even if it's not done correctly is better than not rotating them at all.
Oh, and I do the same as MBBFord, in that I don't bother with a balance until I feel they need one. Alignments are only done when I get new tires, or there's actually a need to do one for other apparent reasons.
I've always gotten good mileage out of aftermarket tires doing it this way. Hey, I guess rotating tires even if it's not done correctly is better than not rotating them at all.
Oh, and I do the same as MBBFord, in that I don't bother with a balance until I feel they need one. Alignments are only done when I get new tires, or there's actually a need to do one for other apparent reasons.
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