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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Matts72
That is the correct way to rotate tires... Front to back, backs get balanced and replaced to the front. Cross rotating has a higher chance of causing radial tire pull.
Not according to Ford, read page 174 of your manual. Never heard of radial tire pull. This is the CORRECT way to rotate your tires according to every major auto maker!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Why does everyone get upset when a dealer or shop recommends work. You don't have to buy it. But if you come to me with for a oil change and a tire rotation and a week later your brakes need replaced or a old belt falls off, now it's my problem. Your back at my shop screaming at me wanting work for free, plus tow bill and any other charge you come up with. Again you don't have to buy it, its just recommended. you won't hurt my fellings if you so no, just don't complain because i recommended.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Well I have taken my truck in for a tire balancing and was told from a major tire company that I needed new belts and needed to replace my brakes. The funny thing was that I changed the belt 4 weeks earlier and my brakes had 50% of life on them. They just assume you need service based on miles and not actual condition of the part.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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I can only speak for myself, not other places. But it seems there is bad dealers, tire companys and aftermarket places, but from reading some of these post all you here about is bad dealers. If you can't do something yourself find a place you can trust.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Bridge, you are correct, my corolla also has the same pattern as I'm sure most other vehicles do, except uni-directional tires.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FORD7445
I can only speak for myself, not other places. But it seems there is bad dealers, tire companys and aftermarket places, but from reading some of these post all you here about is bad dealers. If you can't do something yourself find a place you can trust.
I think you hit the nail on the head, 7445, unfortunately it seems as if the old adage is true...A satisfied customer will tell one or two of his friends, a dissatisfied customer will tell everyone he comes in contact with. My philosophy has always been that I would rather have my customers tell one or two of their friends...it's worked for twenty five years...70% of my customers are repeat and referrals!!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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bridge is right. That is the correct way to rotate tires.

Only way I would rotate radial tires front to back, back to front would be if I had about 50 % or more of the tire life with out a rotation. IF a radial tire doesn't get rotated regularly, it could cause unusual problems if you cross them.


I worked at a shop were all the mechanics had different way to rotate tires. Some cross the front to the back, and bring the back straight up. Some would cross them all, and some would go front to back back to front w/ no crossing.



Also aligenments are needed for alot more things than just crashes and suspension changes. You can hit a bad pot hole and through it off. I try and do one every time I get a new set of tires, make sure they last a full life.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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I'm a DIYer.I do all fluid changes,tire rotations,brake and suspension work,mod installation and detail work.Besides blancing tires and alignments I do pretty much anything not covered by warrantee.
The hotrods are another story.I pull motors,trannys,do suspension work or what ever needs to be done.I don't let anyone else work on them and besides I'm too cheap to pay anyone to do anything I'm capable of doing.





 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Shoot i wish i lived around ur area then i will pay you too do my work, well actually i would pay you too teach me, there's nothing more satisfying than learning how to do it yourself, unless i was aligning my tires or balancing, i don't have those particular machines to do those taks, lol....!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by echavez1981
Shoot i wish i lived around ur area then i will pay you too do my work, well actually i would pay you too teach me, there's nothing more satisfying than learning how to do it yourself, unless i was aligning my tires or balancing, i don't have those particular machines to do those taks, lol....!
Yah, I learned some of the basics from my dad when I was young.Also I have a couple friends who have owned repair shops for around 20 years so I learned quite bit hanging around there.I used to use their lifts and tools but I got sick of being a PITA so I got my own.One friend has an alignment shop but he won't share any secrets.His job must be too easy. You're more than welcome to stop by if you're ever in the area.
 

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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You're more than welcome to stop by if you're ever in the area.
What part of Maine do you live in? I have familiy in Oxford and my brother rents a house in Rangley during the winter. I wouldn't mind meeting a fellow FTE if I'm in the area. If your in the Ft. Lauderdale area let me know.
 

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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I am about 45 minutes from Oxford.I go there drag racing once in a while.Rangley is about 45 minutes in the other direction.But you would pass within 5 minutes of my house on the way to Rangley.Next time you plan on getting up this way shoot me a PM or email and I'll give you my phone #.
I wish I could get to Fort Lauderdale.I went to spring break there in 86.I have a bunch of family and friends in Florida,mostly on the east coast.Hopefully I can get back down there some day.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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I am about 45 minutes from Oxford.I go there drag racing once in a while.Rangley is about 45 minutes in the other direction.But you would pass within 5 minutes of my house on the way to Rangley.Next time you plan on getting up this way shoot me a PM or email and I'll give you my phone #.
I wish I could get to Fort Lauderdale.I went to spring break there in 86.I have a bunch of family and friends in Florida,mostly on the east coast.Hopefully I can get back down there some day.
I have been up there the last 2 winters snowmobiling. Maybe this year.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Matts72
That is the correct way to rotate tires... Front to back, backs get balanced and replaced to the front. Cross rotating has a higher chance of causing radial tire pull.

Alignments are not only necessary when you change components or crash... they are preventative maintenance by pinpointing problem parts and preventing drivability issues and excessive tire wear...
Better read your owners manual, thats not what it says. Radial tires 20 or 25 years ago did have troubles with tread seperation and belt slip but modern radial tires do not have these problems.
 

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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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I have a lifetime alignment at firestone. It was something like $140 but I get my alignment every quarter or 3 months. I seem to like it okay but some shops complain about the lift. But if you read the fine lines it doesnt restrict work as long as you had it before you purchased the plan.

As for the tire balancing, I would look for a hole in the wall shop with the right equiptment and make friends with the owner which is almost always there and get really cheap labor.
 
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